Daniel Joseph Leach Jr.founder of http://AntiIlluminatiParty.com
According to some people who want to be willfully ignorant about the so called chemtrail conspiracy theory, those long-lasting trails left in the sky by high-flying aircraft are chemical or biological agents deliberately sprayed for Geo engineering and weather modification. Just in case you want to have a better understanding of this subject.here are just some of the historical Facts not conspiracy theory’s but conspiracy facts!
RESOURCE LIST AND REFERENCES
1976 UN Weather Weapons Treaty
Canada: Weather Modification Information Act (1985): http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/PDF/W-5.pdfsued:
European Parliament (Motion B4-0551/95)
http://www.envirosecurity.org/ges/TheorinReport14Jan1999.pdf or
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do…–
1999-0005+0+DOC+PDF+V0%2F%2FENpr 2009 Report 10/09 RS1636
The Royal Society (London), Geoengineering the Climate: Science, Governance and
Uncertainty (2009) [Founded in 1660, the Royal Society is an independent scientific academy]
http://royalsociety.org/…/publ…/2009/geoengineering-climate/
UK House of Commons Science and Technology Committee report, Regulation of Geoengineering, 2010
http://www.parliament.uk/…/comm…/science-technology/s-t-pn26–
100318/
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/…/cmsctech/221/221.pdf
Summary of conventions on weather modification, Scientific American, Oct. 2012:
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm…
U.S. military’s secret experiment sprayed toxic chemicals on low-income housing
http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=41600,
University of Missouri Dissertation, DAI/A 73-10, Jul 2012,http://gradworks.umi.com/35/15/3515886.html
UK: Guardian newspaper report April 2002 (http://politics.guardian.co.uk/…/story/0,9174,688098,00.html
List of Geoengineering Patents:http://geoengineeringwatch.nature4less.com/?page_id=26
Water, Air & soil testing list of results (8 countries where tests have been taken):
http://geoengineeringwatch.nature4less.com/…
UN Convention on Biological Diversity (CBD) 2010 & Oct. 2012, a de facto moratorium on geoengineering
experiments (Action Group on Erosion, Technology and Concentration),
http://www.etcgroup.org/…/pdf_…/ETCNRCBDmoratorium101029.pdf
http://www.etcgroup.org/issues/climate-geoengineering
Belfort Group (Belgium), report Case Orange: Contrail Science, Impact on Climate and Weather
Manipulation (written by aviation engineers and pilots), analysis of highlights of the report:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/atmospheric-geoengineeri…/20369
Carnicom Institute (USA):http://www.carnicominstitute.org/html/geoengineering.html
“What in the World are they Spraying” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=te_FOsKL_5Q
http://www.coalitionagainstgeoengineering.org/j…/take-action
May 2007 Informal Report on Chemtrails (UK)
http://www.checktheevidence.com/…/Dept%20of%20Environment%2…
http://www.tdlr.state.tx.us/weather/weathermod.htm (the website Texas Department of Licensing and
Regulation, “Currently, cloud-seeding projects designed to increase rainfall from convective cloud towers
are conducted in nearly 31 million acres of Texas (or almost one-fifth of the state’s land area).
Israel and the Palestinians Gaza conflict nothing more than a False flag iron triangle operations designed to deceive the world
I believe that the Israel and Palestinian Gaza conflict is a false flag operation being carried out by Illuminati family’s and Satanic secret society’s to set up World War 3. The Illuminati family’s control and have infiltrated just about every facet of society they do control key Government offices as well as private corporations through a type of iron triangle. In United States politics, the iron triangle comprises the policy-making relationship among the congressional committees, the bureaucracy, and interest groups.[1] Illuminati Satanic secret societies, have been behind a wide range of events and disasters going as far back in history as the French Revolution and possibly even farther.
It is a historical fact the Hamas was founded by the Israel government Israel may want to destroy Hamas now. But it played a key role in the group’s creation. According to JerusalemOnline.com “Israel actively supported Hamas” Documents show that Israel was interested in empowering Hamas in attempt to end the first Intifada. During Operation “Protective Edge”, news leaks website WikiLeaks exposes secret documents which were passed between American diplomats in the 1980’s. These documents allegedly show that Israel was interested in enabling Hamas activity in its beginning, intending to weaken the Palestine Liberation Organization and ending the first Intifada. Hamas was established in 1987, and has its origins in Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood that the United States General Patraeous, the CIA Creatures of Jesuit Papacy and the Knights of Malta helped to …Israel and Egypt then imposed an economic blockade on Gaza. Even US Congressman Ron Paul spoke about how Israel created Hamas to destabilize Arafat who was very powerful at the time.
Army General David Patraeous is a Jesuit Temporal Coadjutor. He is beloved by the Jesuits at Georgetown University at the nation’s capital in Washington, District of Columbia Catholics. General “Betray-us” has spoken at Georgetown several times! Additionally, the CIA was a creation of the Jesuits in 1947 via the National Security Act signed into law by 33rd Degree “Dirty Harry” Truman! Since then, the American, British, Soviet/Russian, German, French, Canadian, Israeli, Interpol and all the other intelligence agencies around the world have been working together to form the pope’s modern day Holy Office of the Inquisition!
Thanks to the Mossad, Israel’s “Institute for Intelligence and Special Tasks”, the Hamas was allowed to reinforce its presence in the occupied territories. Meanwhile, Arafat’s Fatah Movement for National Liberation as well as the Palestinian Left were subjected to the most brutal form of repression and intimidation. Let us not forget that it was Israel, which in fact created Hamas. According to Zeev Sternell, historian at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, “Israel thought that it was a smart ploy to push the Islamists against the Palestinian Liberation Organisation (PLO)”. The Hamas had built its strength through its various acts of sabotage of the peace process, in a way which was compatible with the interests of the Israeli government. In turn, the latter sought in a number of ways, to prevent the application of the Oslo accords. In other words, Hamas was fulfilling the functions for which it was originally created: to prevent the creation of a Palestinian State. And in this regard, Hamas and Ariel Sharon, see eye to eye; they are exactly on the same wave length.
A majority of the worlds problems, from poverty to world wars, are the cause of International “satanic secret society,” Banking cartel. Many or the Worlds religions and their representatives are secretly being controlled by Secret Satanic Society’s such as the most famous Freemasons who have been influencing and trying to control secular society with a Satanic agenda that Albert Pike (December 29, 1809 – April 2, 1891) wrote about in a book he published called Morals and Dogma of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry in 1871. Albert Pike was an American attorney, Confederate officer, writer, and Freemason. Albert Pike wrote a letter to Giuseppe Mazzini, dated August 15, 1871. This letter graphically outlined plans for three world wars that were seen as necessary to bring about the One World Order, and we can marvel at how accurately it has predicted events that have already taken place.
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Pike’s Letter to Mazzini: It is a commonly believed fallacy that for a short time, the Pike letter to Mazzini was on display in the British Museum Library in London, and it was copied by William Guy Carr, former Intelligence Officer in the Royal Canadian Navy. The British Library has confirmed in writing to me that such a document has never been in their possession. Furthermore, in Carr’s book, Satan, Prince of this World, Carr includes the following footnote:
“The Keeper of Manuscripts recently informed the author that this letter is NOT catalogued in the British Museum Library. It seems strange that a man of Cardinal Rodriguez’s knowledge should have said that it WAS in 1925”.
It appears that Carr learned about this letter from Cardinal Caro y Rodriguez of Santiago, Chile, who wrote The Mystery of Freemasonry Unveiled.
To date, no conclusive proof exists to show that this letter was ever written. Nevertheless, the letter is widely quoted and the topic of much discussion.
Following are apparently extracts of the letter, showing how Three World Wars have been planned for many generations.
“The First World War must be brought about in order to permit the Illuminati to overthrow the power of the Czars in Russia and of making that country a fortress of atheistic Communism. The divergences caused by the “agentur” (agents) of the Illuminati between the British and Germanic Empires will be used to foment this war. At the end of the war, Communism will be built and used in order to destroy the other governments and in order to weaken the religions.” 2
Students of history will recognize that the political alliances of England on one side and Germany on the other, forged between 1871 and 1898 by Otto von Bismarck, co-conspirator of Albert Pike, were instrumental in bringing about the First World War.
“The Second World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences between the Fascists and the political Zionists. This war must be brought about so that Nazism is destroyed and that the political Zionism be strong enough to institute a sovereign state of Israel in Palestine. During the Second World War, International Communism must become strong enough in order to balance Christendom, which would be then restrained and held in check until the time when we would need it for the final social cataclysm.” 3
After this Second World War, Communism was made strong enough to begin taking over weaker governments. In 1945, at the Potsdam Conference between Truman, Churchill, and Stalin, a large portion of Europe was simply handed over to Russia, and on the other side of the world, the aftermath of the war with Japan helped to sweep the tide of Communism into China.
(Readers who argue that the terms Nazism and Zionism were not known in 1871 should remember that the Illuminati invented both these movements. In addition, Communism as an ideology, and as a coined phrase, originates in France during the Revolution. In 1785, Restif coined the phrase four years before revolution broke out. Restif and Babeuf, in turn, were influenced by Rousseau – as was the most famous conspirator of them all, Adam Weishaupt.)
“The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the “agentur” of the “Illuminati” between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time.” 4
Since the terrorist attacks of Sept 11, 2001, world events, and in particular in the Middle East, show a growing unrest and instability between Modern Zionism and the Arabic World. This is completely in line with the call for a Third World War to be fought between the two, and their allies on both sides. This Third World War is still to come, and recent events show us that it is not far off.
We have been given warnings over the years by credible sources such as JFK’s Speech about Secret Societies that probably cost him his life….but, that’s what heroes do like Dwight D. Eisenhower farewell address speech on Jan.17,1961 also gives a warning of the military industrial complex that is controlled by the Satanic Zionists secret societies. Military Industrial Complex (MIC): is concept commonly used to refer to policy relationships between governments, national armed forces, and industrial support they obtain from the commercial sector in political approval for research, development, production, use, and support for military training, weapons, equipment, and facilities within the national defense and security policy.
It is our mission to give solutions and a platform to those Patriots who oppose to the Illuminati Satanic agenda of a One World Order. Anti-Illuminati Party, should God deign to avail us, is to defend and promote real “Liberty and Justice for all,” formed by the wisdom contained in the United States Constitution, particularly its Bill of Rights, and inspired by the U. S. way of “Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”
– Our strategy for promoting these consists in grassroots educational and political campaigns.
– Crucially, we of the Anti-Illuminati Party reject any unthinkingly trendy denial or politically expedient downplaying of the well-established fact that the N.W.O. Globalists, or “Illuminati,” do in fact occupy key offices and abuse their clout to promote the goals of their élitist cabal.
– Because of their powerful members they can, and in fact do, silence and manipulate the American People.
– To indict, counter, undermine, block and expose these tactics of theirs constitutes our mission, and our lifeblood.
– If sound government is to be restored, all the New World Order Globalists must have all their cheaply-bought authority pulled: “We must remove the weeds from public office: they are choking Freedom and the Tree of Liberty” (Daniel J Leach, Jr.).
– The Anti-Illuminati Party identifies the N.W.O. as “an élitist association that exploits the commoner and violates the United States Republic’s first principles.”
– We deem it imperative that every United Statesman must organize to indict, counter, undermine, block and expose these High Traitors.
– We the members of the Anti-Illuminati Party resolve to support no N.W.O. globalist or Illuminist/Illuminatus in any way or sense.
– Under the “Anti-Illuminati Party” banner we aim to unite those who are too often disenfranchised by the current political climate.
– We of the Anti-Illuminati Party are dedicated to revitalizing our communities by speaking Truth, Hope, Goodwill, Unity and Peace.
– We shall work tirelessly to cultivate “Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness” wherever and whenever we can.
– To best find and implement solutions to this end, we place a high value on Party-wide collaboration.
– We shall operate lawfully and respectfully in all matters at all times.
– We shall not profit from our endeavors.
– We believe in “Liberty and Justice for all.”
– With the help of God—that is of supreme Love, Light, Spirit and Truth—we shall not waver in this mission to collaborate with all citizens toward the construction of a better community.
John Fitzgerald “Jack” Kennedy speech also (May 29, 1917 — November 22, 1963)
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False flag (or black flag) describes covert military or paramilitary operations designed to deceive in such a way that the operations appear as though they are being carried out by entities, groups or nations other than those who actually planned and executed them. Operations carried out during peace-time by civilian organizations, as well as covert government agencies, may by extension be called false flag operations if they seek to hide the real organization behind an operation. Geraint Hughes uses the term to refer to those acts carried out by “military or security force personnel, which are then blamed on terrorists.”[1]
In its most modern usage, the term may also refer to those events which governments are cognizant of and able to stop but choose to allow to happen (or “stand down”), as a strategy to entangle or prepare the nation for war. Furthermore, the term “false flag terrorism” may even be used in those instances when violence is carried out by groups or organizations which, whether they know it or not, are being supported or controlled by the “victim” nation. deHaven-Smith argues that the terminology has become looser in recent years due to the increasingly complex levels of “duplicity” and “international intrigue” between states.[2] Some argue that false flags are methods used by deep states as a form of deep politics.[3]
The name “false flag” has its origins in naval warfare where the use of a flag other than the belligerent’s true battle flag as a ruse de guerre, before engaging the enemy, has long been acceptable.[4] Such operations are also acceptable in certain circumstances in land warfare, to deceive enemies in similar ways providing that the deception is not perfidious and all such deceptions are discarded before opening fire upon the enemy.
All about Cathy O’Brien: Ex-Illuminati NWO Mind Control Victim
Warning: Adults only, if you’re easily offended don’t watch
Read the book here: http://static.everdot.org/ebooks/engl…
For Reasons of National Security
(Intro – Mark Phillips. Cathy O’Brien – 0:36:50)
The Granada Forum, October 31, 1996
Cathy O’Brien | ||||
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Born | 4 December 1957 Muskegon, Michigan |
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Nationality | American | |||
Occupation | Writer, speaker | |||
Known for | Conspiracy theorist, statements of victimization by Project Monarch | |||
Spouse(s) | Mark Phillips | |||
Children | Kelly O’Brien | |||
Parents | Earl M. O’Brien | Carol O’Brien (née Tanis) | ||
Website | ||||
http://trance-formation.com/ |
Contents
- 1 Assertions
- 2 Project Monarch
- 3 Multiple personality
- 4 Criticisms of O’Brien
- 5 Bibliography
- 6 Footnotes
- 7 External links
On May 7, 1966 a 9 year old child named Cathy O’Brien was subjected to an occult ritual named “The Rite to Remain Silent”. This is her own very shocking and eye-opening life story about her experience as a CIA MK-Ultra Whitehouse Pentagon level trauma-based Mind Control slave. She speaks out to expose those who abused, who go right up to presidents and congressmen and women and to give voice to the many mind control victims out there who can’t think to speak out.
O’Brien claims to have been abused since she was a toddler by her own family. Forced to partake in satanic sadomasochistic child pornography movies produced for Gerald Ford, she was eventually sold to the CIA, which was looking for traumatized children for their mind-control program … U.S. Presidents Ford, Reagan, Bush and Bill Clinton; Canadian Prime Ministers Pierre Trudeau and Brian Mulroney; Mexican President Miguel de la Madrid; Haitian dictator Baby Doc Duvalier; Panamanian President Manuel Noriega; and King Fahd of Saudi Arabia all sexually brutalized her. She recounts in graphic detail how the elder George Bush raped her thirteen year old daughter and how she was forced to have oral sex with Illuminati witch Hillary Clinton … While being sodomized, whipped, bound and raped, O’Brien overheard the globalist elite planning a military coup in the United States and conspiring to usher in the satanic New World Order
The Q&A (question and answers) starts at 1:35:00
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Cathleen Ann O’Brien (born December 4, 1957, Muskegon, Michigan[1]) is an American who says she is a victim of a mind control government project named Project Monarch, which she said was part of the CIA’s Project MKULTRA forbehavioral engineering of humans (mind control).[2][3][4][5][6] O’Brien made these assertions in Trance Formation of America (1995) and Access Denied: For Reasons of National Security (2004) which she co-authored with her husband Mark Phillips.[6]
Assertions[edit]
The memories that O’Brien has asserted she possesses were retrieved through the use of hypnosis. The specific program which she claimed was responsible for herdissociative identity disorder, Project Monarch, is not mentioned in reviews of MKULTRA, its alleged parent program. Because most MKULTRA records were deliberately destroyed in 1973 by order of then CIA Director Richard Helms, it has been difficult, if not impossible, for investigators to gain a complete understanding of the more than 150 individually funded research sub-projects sponsored by MKULTRA and related CIA programs.[7][8] In 1977, Richard Helms was suspended by the US Congress for lying about the US government’s anti-government activities abroad and illegal surveillance domestically.[9]
O’Brien also states that she has a recollection of child abuse — of her and her daughter — by international pedophile rings, drug barons and satanists, as part of asex slave aspect to her “trauma based mind control programming.” Individuals from United States, Canadian, Mexican and Saudi Arabian government officials to stars of the Country and Western music scene are among those she accuses of these crimes. According to scholar Michael Barkun, investigations into the story produced no credible evidence and numerous inconsistencies.[5]
Project Monarch[edit]
O’Brien says she was recruited against her will by the CIA and her abusive father as a child, through a network of child pornographers he was involved with, and forced to participate in a mind control program named Project Monarch, which is said to be a subsection of Project MKULTRA and Project ARTICHOKE.[2][3][4][5]
Multiple personality[edit]
O’Brien says that she has developed dissociative identity disorder (previously misnomered as multiple personality disorder) and that she has no memory of some of her activities. She also says that she has a photographic recall of the events that she suffered whilst her alternate personalities were in control.[6]
Criticisms of O’Brien[edit]
Swedish scholar Mattias Gardell states that O’Brien’s assertions are almost entirely unsupported by any evidence outside her testimony or the similarly unverified testimony of others.[10] Michael Barkun states that “scholarly and journalistic treatments of MK-ULTRA make no mention of a Project Monarch”.[5]
Her stories have entered the conspiracy culture, linking assertions of satanic ritual abuse with MKUltra.[11] Mark Dice was skeptical of her assertions, but also commented, “there are very real victims of such programs” and “it is possible that a victim would write a book about them and have nobody believe her.”[12]
Other videos on Mind Control:
Illuminati & Pre-9/11 Subliminals and Symbolism in Movies (Re-edit)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4mRTc…
Britney Spears Illuminati Mind Control Victim
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80c_b…
Bill Clinton under mind control
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DUmb…
9/11 Subliminals: GCSE Exam Papers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhnGNS…
RFID Mind Control
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPsFXh…
Cathy O’Brien (with full index)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2S3fla…
Footnotes[edit]
- Jump up^ O’Brien, Cathy. “Trance Formation Of America”. Retrieved 17 May 2012.
- ^ Jump up to:a b Versluis, A (2006). The new inquisitions: heretic-hunting and the intellectual origins of modern totalitarianism. Oxford [Oxfordshire]: Oxford University Press. p. 173.ISBN 0-19-530637-6. Retrieved 2008-10-20.
- ^ Jump up to:a b de Young, M (2004). The day care ritual abuse moral panic. Jefferson, N.C: McFarland. p. 235. ISBN 0-7864-1830-3. Retrieved 2008-10-20.
- ^ Jump up to:a b Toropov B (2001). The complete idiot’s guide to urban legends. Indianapolis, Ind: Alpha Books. p. 221. ISBN 0-02-864007-1. Retrieved 2008-10-20.
- ^ Jump up to:a b c d Barkun, Michael (2003). A culture of conspiracy: apocalyptic visions in contemporary America. Berkeley: University of California Press. p. 76. ISBN 0-520-23805-2. Retrieved 2008-10-20.
- ^ Jump up to:a b c Phillips, Mark (1995). TranceFormation of America (pdf). Reality Marketing, Incorporated. ISBN 0-9660165-4-8. Retrieved 2008-10-20.
- Jump up^ Walter H. Bowart (January 1971), Operation Mind Control, Dell Publishing
- Jump up^ John D. Marks (1979), The Search for the ‘Manchurian Candidate’: The CIA and Mind Control: The Secret History of the Behavioral Sciences, Penguin Books Ltd., retrieved 2013-10-27
- Jump up^ Christopher Marquis. “Richard Helms, Ex-C.I.A. Chief, Dies at 89”. New York Times. Retrieved 2013-10-27.
- Jump up^ Gardell M (2003). Gods of the blood: the pagan revival and white separatism. Durham, N.C: Duke University Press. ISBN 0-8223-3071-7. Retrieved 2008-10-20.
- Jump up^ Knight P (2003). Conspiracy Theories in American History: An Encyclopedia. Santa Barbara, Calif: ABC-CLIO. pp. 487. ISBN 1-57607-812-4.
- Jump up^ Mark Dice. “Cathy O’Brien’s Claims of Being an MK-ULTRA victim”. Retrieved 2013-07-31.
External links[edit]
Is America Under Attack From Boston Marathon Bombing To Small Texas Town Fertilizer Plant Explosion And If So By Who?
From the Boston Marathon Massacre to the explosion at a fertilizer plant that rocked a small Texas town near Waco Wednesday night. It was once said ”You never want a serious crisis to go to waste”. Rahm Emanuel: You have to ask yourself are we living in the End of days as Jesus Christ spoke about before his return and if so what else should we also expect to happen? “And this gospel [of the Kingdom] must first be published among all nations. “But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost. “Now the brother shall betray the brother to death, and the father the son; and children shall rise up against their parents, and shall cause them to be put to death. “And ye shall be hated of all men for my name’s sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.” (Mark 13:10-13)
Shortly before His crucifixion and resurrection, Jesus Christ delivered a major prophecy of end-time events, recorded in Matthew 24, Mark 13 and Luke 21. He was asked by His disciples: “When will these things be? And what will be the sign of your coming, and of the end of the age?” (Matthew 24:3 ). Jesus responded with a description of conditions and events that would lead up to His second coming. Moreover, He said that when these signs became evident, His return would occur within one generation!
I believe that many of these tragic events are happening are a build up to a 3 World War. Predicted by the Illuminati s own Albert Pike
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July 10, 2010
1871 — Satanist and Freemason commander, Albert Pike predicted World War I – III. “The Third World War is to be played out by…”
From: iamthewitness, The Synagogue of Satan 1821-1875.
1871
Albert Pike |
An American General named, Albert Pike, who had been enticed into the, “Illuminati,” by Guiseppe Mazzini, completes his military blueprint for three world wars and various revolutions throughout the world, culminating into moving this great conspiracy into its final stage. These details are as follows:
- The First World War is to be fought for the purpose of destroying the Tsar in Russia, as promised by Nathan Mayer Rothschild in 1815. The Tsar is to be replaced with communism which is to be used to attack religions, predominantly Christianity. The differences between the British and German empires are to be used to foment this war.
- The Second World War is to be used to foment the controversy between fascism and political Zionism with the oppression of Jews in Germany a lynchpin in bringing hatred against the German people. This is designed to destroy fascism (which the Rothschilds’ created) and increase the power of political Zionism. This war is also designed to increase the power of communism to the level that it equalled that of united Christendom.
- The Third World War is to be played out by stirring up hatred of the Muslim world for the purposes of playing the Islamic world and the political Zionists off against one another. Whilst this is going on, the remaining nations would be forced to fight themselves into a state of mental, physical, spiritual and economic exhaustion.
On August 15th of this year, Albert Pike writes a letter (now catalogued in the British Museum) to Guiseppe Mazzini in which he states the following,
“We shall unleash the nihilists and the atheists and we shall provoke a great social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to all nations the effect of absolute atheism; the origins of savagery and of most bloody turmoil.
Then everywhere, the people will be forced to defend themselves against the world minority of the world revolutionaries and will exterminate those destroyers of civilization and the multitudes disillusioned with Christianity whose spirits will be from that moment without direction and leadership and anxious for an ideal, but without knowledge where to send its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer brought finally out into public view.
A manifestation which will result from a general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and Atheism; both conquered and exterminated at the same time.”
Pike, who had been elected as Sovereign Grand Commander of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry’s Southern Jurisdiction in 1859, was the most powerful Freemason in America. He would retain that post for thirty-two years until his death in 1891. He also published a book on the subject in 1872 entitled, “Morals and Dogma of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry,” in which he candidly states the following,
“The true name of Satan, the Kabbalists say, is that of Yahweh reversed; for Satan is not a black god, but the negation of God…For the Initiates, this is not a Person, but a Force, created for good, but which may serve for evil. It is the instrument of Liberty and Free Will…
LUCIFER, the Light-bearer! Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of Darkness! Lucifer, the Son of the Morning! Is it he who bears the Light, and with its splendors intolerable blinds feeble, sensual or selfish Souls? Doubt it not!”
Interestingly, in the same book, Pike emphasizes that Freemasonry is a religion based on the occult Jewish philosophy found in the Kabbalah.
“Think of the press as a great keyboard on which the government can play …” “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it …”“The truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, truth is the greatest enemy of the State …” Dr. Joseph Goebbles. Minister for Propaganda of Hitler’s Third Reich
The Truth: It’s a shell game
to the elite press.
The main function of today’s elite press is to present a lie as the truth; to depict that which is false as factual! AND THAT IS CERTAINLY WHAT THE ELITE MEDIA IS DOING TODAY REGARDING ITS REPORTING ON THE ECONOMIC CRISIS THAT HAS TAKEN HOLD OF THE COUNTRY AND THE WORLD.
CELENTE: PREDICTS WAR
And it’s not just Marshall who sees bloodshed on the horizon: Gerald Celente, the head of the Trends Research Institute, the major trend-forecasting agency in the world has recently released a Trend Alert, reporting that, “The biggest financial bubble in history is being inflated in plain sight,” and that –
“THIS IS THE MOTHER OF ALL BUBBLES, and when it explodes […] it will signal the end to the boom/bust cycle that has characterized economic activity throughout the developed world. This is going to be much bigger than the … Real Estate [residential and commercial] bubbles which [recently] hit speculators, investors and financiers … When the ‘Bailout Bubble’ explodes, the system goes with it.”
Celente continues:
“The phantom dollars, printed out of thin air, backed by nothing … and producing next to nothing … defines the ‘Bailout Bubble’. Just as with the other bubbles, so too will this one burst. But unlike [the residential and commercial] real estate bubbles, when the “Bailout Bubble” pops, neither the President nor the Federal Reserve will have the fiscal fixes or monetary policies available to inflate another.”
Celente then goes on to say something truly remarkable:“GIVEN THE PATTERN OF GOVERNMENTS TO PARLAY EGREGIOUS FAILURES INTO MEGA-FAILURES, THE CLASSIC TREND THEY FOLLOW, WHEN ALL ELSE FAILS, IS TO TAKE THEIR NATION TO WAR, and that, while we cannot pinpoint precisely when the ‘Bailout Bubble’ will burst, we are certain it will. When it [i.e., the bailout bubble] … breaks, IT SHOULD BE UNDERSTOOD THAT A MAJOR WAR WILL FOLLOW.”
Interestingly, the “bailout bubble” that Celente was referring to amounted at the time to $12.8 trillion. As of July, estimates by Bloomberg put this bubble at nearly double the previous estimate.
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Matthew 24:34 ). Could this be that generation?
In Matthew 24:22And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened.
See All…, describing world conditions prior to His second coming, Jesus said that “if that time of troubles were not cut short, no living thing could survive; but for the sake of God’s chosen it will be cut short” (Revised English Bible).
False Flag Operation 04/15/13 Bombing Boston Marathon Massacre the New American Operation Gladio.
Friends yes its breaking news US Government Agents caught red-handed planting the bombs on site in black back packs with men wearing Navy Neal emblems and gear. As you will see from the photo’s bellow all the evidence is damning. Its not looking good for the United States special forces. The question is who will be the patsy this time the guys caught on videos and in the photo or do they have some drugged out mind controlled zombie on stand by to call a Right Wing Christian extremist.
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There’s an old saying if it looks like a duck, Quacks Like a duck, walks like a duck it’s probably a duck. Yes friends what we have uncovered in the hours after the Boston Marathon Tax Day, Patriots Day Bombing is looking more like a false flag event, The question is who was this orchestrated by and why? Who stands to gain from others pain and sufferings. My thoughts go back to the Illuminati and the secret Societies that are trying to build a New World Order have the means as in connections and motives to carry out such a tragic event.
The question you have to ask yourself is why and for what reason. It was once said ”You never want a serious crisis to go to waste”. Rahm Emanuel: This gives the Government the reason to do all sorts of things to control people’s lives like putting more troops on the streets or shutting down the internet and putting controls of what you have the ability to search for or what you can say on your blog.
What I see happening is leading to more invasive TSA presence at sporting events and other gatherings and the Illuminati or NWO flunkies are going to make things so bad that people beg the government to solve the problem of this so-called terrorism. Patriot groups are being accused from the Mainstream Media and the DOD. What we are really talking about is Problem > Reaction > Solution? Also known as The Hegelian Dialectic, or Diocletian’s Theory, it was seen to perfection by the Blair Government in the UK (1997-2007) spin machine it is a basic psychological method, developed in the early 20th Century, of manipulating an agenda, whether it be an individual salesman making a sale, a Government wanting to push through potentially unpopular legislation or a Corporation trying to increase its profit margin.
Simply Put:
Problem – Manipulate “customer” reaction by creating a perceived problem, perhaps by leaking stories to the press e.g.: Iraq WMD, Terrorist threat, Global Warming
Reaction – Your “customer” obviously is concerned by this apparent turn of events and demands help and protection
Solution – Eh Voila, you come up with the solution to save the day, the same “solution” that you would never have been able to sell before making the customer worried e.g.: 5 years of Iraq war; an endless war on a noun (terror); and people for the first time being willing to pay more taxes and cut back on their consumption to “save the world” all under a false pretext.
The question is does the end ever justify the means? NO! The end game is that the New World Order/Illuminati/Zionist cabal claims that the earth is over-populated and that the population must be reduced by whatever means necessary. The bottom line is that the elitists want the whole world for themselves. They want to eliminate the rest of us who they refer to as “useless eaters.” They want to return to what they call a “Post-Industrial Society” the type of society that existed before the Industrial Revolution. According to them, the middle class must be eliminated to leave only two classes: the Rich – – – and the slaves. The American Middle class is standing in the way of this globalist plan.
No kidding. How Bizarre! Is this a sign that the Illuminati are behind this bombing? Maybe even behind Newtown Massacre since the last mile was dedicated to Newton victims? The last mile ending at 666 Boylston St. Thats really wild.. -Mort
An explosion at fertilizer plant rocked a small Texas town near Waco Wednesday night – causing several injuries and destroying homes and vehicles, authorities said. (ABC)
By MICHAEL S. JAMES, LEEZEL TANGLAO (@leezeltanglao) and JOHN SANTUCCI
Of the 200 people injured near the West, Texas, plant, 40 were injured critically, Texas Department of Public Safety spokesman Gail Scarborough said.
It was unclear whether or not there were deaths.
This was a breaking news story. Please CLICK HERE for more updates.
***BREAKING NEWS*** red-handed: Boston Marathon massacre Ending at 666 Boylston St. suspects photo- & videographed, US Gov’t covering up, a new American Operation Gladio
False Flag Operation 04/15/13 Bombing Boston Marathon Massacre the New American Operation Gladio.
MAN IN MILITARY DRESS HOLDING WHAT APPEARS TO BE DETONATOR AFTER BLASTS!!! [PHOTO]
http://www.secretsofthefed.com/man-in-military-dress-holding-what-appears-to-be-detonator-after-blasts-photo/
Friends yes its breaking news US Government Agents caught red-handed planting the bombs on site in black back packs with men wearing Navy Neal emblems and gear. As you will see from the photo’s bellow all the evidence is damning. Its not looking good for the United States special forces. The question is who will be the patsy this time the guys caught on videos and in the photo or do they have some drugged out mind controlled zombie on stand by to call a Right Wing Christian extremist.
Boston Marathon Bombing Police Radio 4/15/13
Listen Closely from 00:19 to 00:24 and again at 11:30 to 11:35 call for help announcing Boston Street and Fairfield Street you will hear an Offer say! “We have devises here I need officers here”.
http://blogdogcicle.blogspot.com/2013/04/boston-marathon-bombing-police-radio.html
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There’s an old saying if it looks like a duck, Quacks Like a duck, walks like a duck it’s probably a duck. Yes friends what we have uncovered in the hours after theBoston Marathon Tax Day, Patriots Day Bombing is looking more like a false flag event, The question is who was this orchestrated by and why? Who stands to gain from others pain and sufferings. My thoughts go back to the Illuminati and the secret Societies that are trying to build a New World Order have the means as in connections and motives to carry out such a tragic event.
The question you have to ask yourself is why and for what reason. It was once said ”You never want a serious crisis to go to waste”. Rahm Emanuel: This gives the Government the reason to do all sorts of things to control people’s lives like putting more troops on the streets or shutting down the internet and putting controls of what you have the ability to search for or what you can say on your blog.
What I see happening is leading to more invasive TSA presence at sporting events and other gatherings and the Illuminati or NWO flunkies are going to make things so bad that people beg the government to solve the problem of this so-called terrorism. Patriot groups are being accused from the Mainstream Media and the DOD. What we are really talking about is Problem > Reaction > Solution? Also known as The Hegelian Dialectic, or Diocletian’s Theory, it was seen to perfection by the Blair Government in the UK (1997-2007) spin machine it is a basic psychological method, developed in the early 20th Century, of manipulating an agenda, whether it be an individual salesman making a sale, a Government wanting to push through potentially unpopular legislation or a Corporation trying to increase its profit margin.
Simply Put:
Problem – Manipulate “customer” reaction by creating a perceived problem, perhaps by leaking stories to the press e.g.: Iraq WMD, Terrorist threat, Global Warming
Reaction – Your “customer” obviously is concerned by this apparent turn of events and demands help and protection
Solution – Eh Voila, you come up with the solution to save the day, the same “solution” that you would never have been able to sell before making the customer worried e.g.: 5 years of Iraq war; an endless war on a noun (terror); and people for the first time being willing to pay more taxes and cut back on their consumption to “save the world” all under a false pretext.
The question is does the end ever justify the means? NO! The end game is that the New World Order/Illuminati/Zionist cabal claims that the earth is over-populated and that the population must be reduced by whatever means necessary. The bottom line is that the elitists want the whole world for themselves. They want to eliminate the rest of us who they refer to as “useless eaters.” They want to return to what they call a “Post-Industrial Society” the type of society that existed before the Industrial Revolution. According to them, the middle class must be eliminated to leave only two classes: the Rich – – – and the slaves. The American Midle class is standing in the way of this globalist plan.
No kidding. How Bizarre! Is this a sign that the Illuminati are behind this bombing? Maybe even behind Newtown Massacre since the last mile was dedicated to Newton victims? The last mile ending at 666 Boylston St. Thats really wild.. -Mort
This section Copied from http://www.naturalnews.com/039961_Boston_mainstream_media_cover_story.htmlMedia refuses to acknowledge existence of private military contractors on the scene
But the real story — and perhaps the biggest story of all — has been blown wide open, first by researchers at 4chan.org, and then covered by Anthony Gucciardi, Paul Joseph Watson and Alex Jones. It reveals that there were private military contractors with backpacks operating at the scene. As you can see from the above image, these private military operatives are both wearing the exact same uniforms: tan BDUs, tan military boots, dark jackets, communications gear and black backpacks. This “skull” symbol just happens to be the symbol of a group of military contractors called “The Craft.”
The following picture shows former group member Chris Kyle (who was recently murdered, by the way), sitting with his sniper rifle and wearing the “Craft” hat with the skull symbol: But an even better look at the symbol comes from the Craft’s own website, where training photos show the symbol with great clarity: “The Craft” has a reputation of being something like an “elite Blackwater,” and the presence of “Craft” operatives on scene at the Boston marathon bombing is an absolute bombshell of a news story.
Yet the mainstream media absolutely refuses to mention it at all. Ever wonder why?Because as usual, you are being spoon-fed a cesspool of lies by the mainstream media — an institution of false information that has already decided to make sure the aftermath of this event follows a predetermined outcome of blaming patriots… even if it means fabricating, ignoring or selectively deleting evidence.Whatever happened to the era when the media’s job was to ask questions? Now that job rests solely with the alternative media — the only institution that still has the integrity to question the official cover stories and get to the bottom of real-world events.Trowbridge wrote:On April 1, 2013 I attended training in La Junta, Colorado hosted by the Colorado State Patrol (CSP). The training was from 12:00 pm to 4:00 pm and covered two topics, Sovereign Citizens, and Outlaw Motorcycle Gangs. I was pretty familiar with motorcycle gangs but since we often deal with the so-called sovereign citizen groups I was interested to see what they had to say. The group consisted of police officers, deputies, and CSP troopers. There were about 20 people in attendance. Trooper Joe Kluczynski taught a 2-hour section on sovereign citizens. Kluczynski spent most of his two hours focusing on how, in his view and apparently the view of Homeland Security, people turn to the sovereign citizen movement. Kluczynski started off by saying there are probably some sovereign citizens in this room and gave a generalized list of those groups that have sovereign citizen views. Among those groups, Kluczynski had listed, were those who believe America was founded on godly principles, Christians who take the Bible literally, and “fundamentalists”. Kluczynski did not explain what he meant by “fundamentalists” but from the context it was clear he was referring again to those who took the Bible literally or “too seriously.“BOSTON BOMBINGS: Hmm…another April massacre. It might be interesting to note that the Oklahoma City bombing occurred this week, the Columbine massacre occurred this week, the Waco tragedy occurred this week, the VA Tech massacre occurred this week. COINCIDENCE?? I think not. The list goes on….The American Revolution began this week, so did the American Civil War, and the Bosnian War. Still think this is coincidence? Add the Rwandan Genocide and the Armenian Genocide to the list. Also, Abraham Lincoln was shot this week. This is just the beginning of the list. Still think this is all crazed conspiracy theory?? Well, before you come to any conclusions, you may want to check out the satanic ritual calendar. The month of April is full of satanic high holy days. This is not mere chance folks. This is not a coincidence. There are very dark powers at work here. We need to be on our knees, crying out to God, warring in prayer against these demonic forces.” – Russ Dizdar
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/cienciareal/cienciareal20.htm
SHARE THIS PHOTO BEFORE IS DELETED! Facebook keeps deleting this picture of this person lurking on the Roof over the Boston Marathon as the explosions happened! Share before is flagged… something sinister is going on with this incident..
SHARE THIS PHOTO BEFORE IS DELETED! Facebook keeps deleting this picture of this person lurking on the Roof over the Boston Marathon as the explosions happened! Share before is flagged… something sinister is going on with this incident..
# DOWNTOWN BOSTON IS A STAGE. MORE THEN THE 2ND AMENDMENT IS AT STAKE. THE NEAR FUTURE WILL BE STORMY INDEED! RIP THE REAL VICTIMS
*PHOTOGRAPHY TAKEN APPROX 5-MINUTES AFTER THE SECOND EXPLOSION. ALL DEPICTED AGENTS (& SEVERAL others alike) DRESSED IN THE SAME CIVILIAN UNIFORMS (incl. boots) ARE JOGGING/RAPIDLY LEAVING THE STRIKE-ZONE IN TWO (or more) SEPARATE GROUPS AS POLICE START SEALING OFF A HUGE AREA – ALMOST ENCLOSING THEM..WHO ARE THESE AGENTS & WHOM DO THEY REPRESENT? (They were clearly not there to help any casualties or assist local law-enforcement, they left the area instantly and in a rush DIRECTLY as the are was getting sealed off….) ————————————————————— ROOF-TOP BLACK OPERATIVES. BOMB-SNIFFING DOGS. LAZY & LAUGHING PHYSICIANS. THOUSANDS OF ENFORCERS FROM ALL KINDS OF AGENCIES – JUST WATCHING. —> SOME LEAVING THE AREA DIRECTLY AFTER THE EVENT. RAPIDLY FLEEING THE SCENE.= HIDDEN EXPLOSIVES, IN THE MOST CRITICAL (IMPOSSIBLE SOME SAY) AREA OF THE RACE [THE FINISH]. ONLY CIVILIAN CASUALTIES. NO OFFICIAL INFORMATION. LATE MARTIAL LAW-STYLE RESPONSE.——————————————————– # DOWNTOWN BOSTON IS A STAGE. MORE THEN THE 2ND AMENDMENT IS AT STAKE. THE NEAR FUTURE WILL BE STORMY INDEED! RIP THE REAL VICTIMSThe Boston Globe announced that there would be a controlled explosion today as a part of police bomb squad drill. Fascinatingly this happened concurrently to today’s bombing.Here is the link to the Boston Globe’s announcement on Twitter. I have verified it myself and am providing a link. Announcement is timestamped. https://twitter.com/BostonGlobe/status/323886879453892609
Boston Bombing Culprits Found?
Infowars.com
April 17, 2013
This article was posted: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 at 12:09 pm
Moms And Dads Need To know Why (((I Love Pink))) By Victorias Secret is sickening and Satanic.
The fashion industry is deeply steeped in Illuminati symbolism and hot new young child like models are constantly recruited to make this symbolism “fashionable”. Victorias Secret is a perfect example of this, as exemplified by the Victorias Secrets I Love Pink Fashion line the Illuminati’s favorite international fashion Symbolism is that of Pedophilia and Sex with Children. You only have to use your brain to figure out what the words imply when it says I love Pink and its not talking about the color Pink can you say In English slang, the pink refers to the vagina.[29
victorias-dirty-secret Victoria’s Secret might pretend that Pink is aimed at women 18-24, but as most of … I love the thongs – and I never thought I’d ever say that. …. the average middle-class mom doesn’t know the slang meaning of PINK, If that’s not enough, there are also television shows in the works that are the Hollywood equivalent of occult dabbling, and pop singers using satanic imagery to promote their music.The occult revival of the late 1960s notwithstanding, there seems to exist a periodic need in this fair country to become enamored of satanism every decade and a half, give or take. In the 1980s, there were daycare centers reportedly run by devil-worshipping pedophiles, and an evil network of child-killing Satanists taking over America.
In sexuality
- Whereas Jewish people were forced to wear a yellow star of David under Nazi rule, men imprisoned on accusations of homosexuality were forced to wear a pink triangle. Nowadays, a pink triangle (usually pointing up, and rendered inhot pink contrary to Nazi usage in which the triangle was pointing down and rendered in regular pink) is often worn with pride.[26]
- A Dutch newsgroup about homosexuality is called nl.roze (roze being the Dutch word for pink), while in Britain, Pink News is a leading gay newspaper and online news service. There is a magazine called Pink for the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) community which has different editions for various metropolitan areas.[27] In France Pink TV is an LGBT cable channel.
- In business, the pink pound or pink dollar refers to the spending power of the LGBT community.[28] Advertising agencies sometimes call the gay market the pink economy.
- Though long discontinued, the now mainstream gay-oriented magazine The Advocate for many years of its early history featured a sometimes sizable section of personal ads and mostly sexually oriented ads printed on pink paper and referred to as “the pink pages.” As the gay rights movement gained increased mainstream momentum and public acceptance, and as the magazine itself became less underground and was distributed more widely on newsstands in “middle America,” the publishers made the section more easily removable for those who preferred not to view/keep it with the main body of the magazine. The Advocate eventually ceased to include the “pink pages” when in 1992, they spun off a separate magazine called Advocate Classifieds which continued until about 2000 when the classified ads went on the Internet.
- In English slang, the pink refers to the vagina.[29]
- In Russian, pink (розовый, rozovyj) is used to refer to lesbians, and light blue (голубой, goluboj) refers to gay men.[30]
This section copied: http://vigilantcitizen.com
This issue of French Vogue features a truly disturbing photo shoot featuring young girls (around 6 years old) in heavy make-up, high heels and designer clothes. Some pictures actually “sexualize” these girls by placing them in strange settings.
Notice the presence of feline prints in many photos – a reference Sex Kitten programming (aka Beta Programming). Lost of innocence, premature sexualization, awkward settings, ritual abuse, blank stares…the pics truly reek of mind controlled children.
“Cadeaux” means “gifts” and, in the context of this last pic, the term takes a truly sickening meaning.
Will The Real Knights Templar Please Stand Up
FOR $1,000,000: SPOT THE FAKE OR DISSOLVED ORGANIZATION
Order/Knights of Malta
Knights Templar
Papal Knights
Knights of Columbus
Knights of the Holy Sepulchre
Swiss Guard
Jesuits
Legion of Christ
Opus Dei
Illuminati
Freemasons
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Jonathan Gillenson I’m pretty sure the Knights Templar were disolved (at least to the best of my knowledge). I don’t know of a group called the Papal Knights ever existing but I may have to dive deeper into Church history. To my knowledge there was a group called the Illuminati, but Dan Brown exaggerates their involvement and unless I’m mistaken they have completely dissolved themselves.
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John McGuire The Papal Knights are a matter of mainstream news and public record.
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Jonathan Daniel Bennett Templars were dissolved eight centuries ago; “Papal Knights” could refer to a number of chivalric orders; Weishaupt’s Illuminati was largely destroyed by the Bavarian government in the late 1700s, although many conspiracy theories involve their continuation in various ways and in various places.
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John McGuire Ten years before the Jesuits, Ignatius of Loyola founded the ALUMBRADOS, i.e. Enlightened Ones or Illuminati in Spain. The group mysteriously disbanded before the Jesuits were founded.
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Jonathan Daniel Bennett Ok. Where’s my million dollars?
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Daniel J Leach Nope the Nights Knigh Templar are still an active grouphttp://www.knightstemplar.org/
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John McGuire No dice, Ionatan.
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Jonathan Daniel Bennett There are dozens of groups calling themselves Templars, but the actual Order of the Poor Fellow-Soldiers of Christ and of the Temple of Solomon, founded in in the early 12th century were officially dissolved by papal decree in 1312.
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John McGuire Disavowed not dissolved.
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Duc de Berwick Knights Templar were dissolved, the Knights of St. John had a schism sometime during Napoleon so they could be fake.
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John McGuire This site claims Templars alive and well: papalknights.org
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John McGuire This site claims Templars alive and well: papalknights.org/
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Daniel J Leach http://papalknights.org
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John McGuire This site claims Templars alive and well: http://papalknights.org/
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Jonathan Daniel Bennett It was papal decree which brought them into being, it was papalauthority underwhich the Order operated, and it was the pope who suppressed and dissolved. Whatever members of the Knights Templar survived and defied the ban by continuing to function, and whatever modern groups refer to themselves as Templars, the original Order no longer exists.
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Jonathan Daniel Bennett As I said, there are dozens of groups (some even within the Church) which tap the Templar legacy, but the Order itself no longer exists.
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John McGuire A papal decree brought them under the pope, papal authority disowned them. No cigar.
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John McGuire No longer exists as a papist entity. WE GET IT.
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John McGuire No longer exists as a papist entity. WE GET IT. STOP SPAMMING.
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Jonathan Daniel Bennett You do not understand how Catholic religious orders function then.
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Duc de Berwick No you are wrong John. The Templars were duty bound and could report only to the Pope, hence many feudal lords in the Levant used to get very angry with the knights for they could not question them or make them show cause when asked upon.
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John McGuire Actually I do. Organizations that fall out of the pope’s favor do not magically disappear except in papo-fairyland of course.
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Duc de Berwick Thus the earlier point stands that the Pope gave them their existence and even took away their role to exist.
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Jonathan Daniel Bennett I’m pointing out some basic historical facts in response to a rather odd topic post. I’m not spamming. Really John, I like a lot of what you post, but I’m not sure where you are trying to go with this.
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John McGuire Organizations that fall out of the pope’s favor do not magically disappear except in papo-fairyland of course.
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Daniel J Leach This is a good conversation very informative! Where or not they are still who they were doesn’t matter it is only one NWO organization out of thousands that or in the same league of secret society’s that want to build a New World Order Government and none of the work they do is of any good to humanity.
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John McGuire I’ll go wherever solid fact takes me.
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John McGuire “Role to exist”? That’s not even cogent.
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Duc de Berwick Though the Knights of St. John is a murky issue, I am very confident that the templars do not exist anymore after they were suspended by the Pope in connivance with Philip IV of France.
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Jonathan Daniel Bennett The Order as an organization did indeed cease to exist. Whatever organizations and institutions came out of it, or were based upon it, are a completely different matter and open to much speculation, but the Knights Templar, being under papal authority, were validly dissolved by that same authority.
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Duc de Berwick Exactly
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John McGuire Did the pope found the Knights Templar? I don’t think so.
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Daniel J Leach I have no idea but the same groups still are trying to rule the world!
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Duc de Berwick But he passed a decree for it’s creation.
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John McGuire Sorry, but you need to realize my reading of history doesn’t rely on the Roman Patriarch as some kind of supreme dictator of all reality. And that’s why you sound like a clashing gong to my ears.
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Daniel J Leach Its poinless to say if they are the same group or not the next group still has the same goal as the first!
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John McGuire The Nicaean Church fell out of favor with the Emperor. Does that mean the Christian Church no longer exists?
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Daniel J Leach Good point John McGuire!
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Jonathan Daniel Bennett No, like most Catholic religious orders, the Knights Templar were not founded directly by the pope, but under local episcopal and noble authority before- having grown in numbers and prominence- brought themselves direct papal authority.
I realize you are not Catholic, but to recognize some how the history of the Templars and the role and functions of religious orders like the Templars works within the Church is completely separate from submitting to Roman obedience yourself. -
Jonathan Daniel Bennett The Emperor never issued a decree dissolving the entirety of the Church.
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Duc de Berwick Fine if the Order was not founded or created by the Pope, at least they were allied to the Pope. Does that suffice?
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John McGuire No, but he defined it as Arian.
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Jonathan Daniel Bennett And his successors reversed that.
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Jonathan Daniel Bennett As was their prerogative.
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John McGuire Alliances come and go but do not fully define an organization.
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John McGuire So, Jonathan, if a future pope reinstates the Knights Templar, then suddenly they will never have ceased to exist? You’re loyal, I’ll give you that much.
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- Vatican celebrates Knights of Malta’s 900 years (sacbee.com)
- Knights of Columbus Launch Prayer Campaign During Papal Transition (deaconjohnspace.wordpress.com)
- Knights of Columbus Launch Prayer Campaign During Papal Transition (sacbee.com)
- James A. Marples letter: Catholic Church needs a ‘modern’ leader in next pope (reporternews.com)