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How long till the return of Jesus Christ and the Anti Christ

From a Christian perspective, the exact timing of the return of Jesus Christ and the arrival of the Antichrist is not known. The Bible emphasizes that these events will occur unexpectedly.

Here’s a breakdown of what Christian prophecy generally indicates:

The Return of Jesus Christ (Second Coming):

• No one knows the day or hour: Jesus himself stated that “concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only” (Matthew 24:36).
• Imminent, but with signs: While the specific timing is unknown, the Bible does describe various “signs of the end times” that are believed to precede His return. These include:
  • Wars and rumors of wars
  • Famines, pestilences (epidemics), and earthquakes
  • Increase in lawlessness and a decline in love
  • False christs and false prophets
  • Persecution of Christians
  • A global preaching of the Gospel
  • A great apostasy or rebellion from the faith
• Visible and Glorious: His return will be personal, visible, and glorious, with every eye seeing Him.

The Antichrist:

• Precedes Jesus’ return: The Antichrist is generally believed to rise to power before the Second Coming of Christ, particularly during a period often referred to as the “Tribulation.”
• “Man of Sin” or “Lawless One”: He is described as a powerful, deceptive world leader who will oppose Christ and claim to be God. He will perform signs and wonders to deceive many.
• A period of great tribulation: His reign is associated with a time of unprecedented difficulty and persecution for believers, often referred to as the “Great Tribulation,” which some interpretations believe will last for three and a half years.
• Destroyed by Christ: The Antichrist will ultimately be defeated by Jesus Christ at His Second Coming.

Different Interpretations:

It’s important to note that within Christianity, there are different interpretations regarding the precise order and timing of these end-time events. Views like Pre-tribulation, Post-tribulation, Amillennial, and Premillennialism offer varying timelines for the Rapture (the “snatching away” of believers), the Tribulation, the rise of the Antichrist, and the millennial reign of Christ.

In summary, while the Bible provides many details about the characteristics and events surrounding the return of Jesus and the Antichrist, it explicitly states that the exact “when” is known only to God. Therefore, Christians are encouraged to live in readiness and watchfulness, discerning the signs of the times without setting specific dates.

1 Thessalonians 5:4 – King James Version

4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.

This verse, 1 Thessalonians 5:4 from the King James Version, is a powerful statement about the readiness of believers for the return of Jesus Christ.

Let’s break down its meaning:

• “But ye, brethren, are not in darkness…”: This refers to Christians, those who have put their faith in Jesus. “Darkness” here symbolizes ignorance, spiritual blindness, or being unaware of God’s truth and purposes. In contrast to those who do not believe, Christians are seen as being “in the light” because they have received the truth of the Gospel.
• “…that that day should overtake you as a thief.”: “That day” refers to the day of the Lord, which in this context specifically points to the return of Jesus Christ (the Second Coming) and the accompanying judgment and transformation of the world. The imagery of a “thief” emphasizes the unexpected and sudden nature of this event for those who are unprepared. A thief comes without warning, catching people off guard.

The Implication:

The core message of this verse is that genuine believers, because they are spiritually enlightened and living in accordance with God’s will, should not be caught off guard by the Lord’s return. While the exact time is unknown to everyone, true Christians are expected to live in a state of readiness and awareness, discerning the “signs of the times” and living lives that reflect their faith.

It’s a call to:

• Spiritual Vigilance: To be awake, alert, and watchful, rather than spiritually slumbering.
• Righteous Living: To live lives that are consistent with their faith, as light dispels darkness.
• Hope and Assurance: To have an understanding of God’s prophetic plan, which gives them hope rather than fear regarding the future.

In essence, while the world may be surprised by the Lord’s return, believers, by virtue of their relationship with God and their understanding of His word, are meant to be prepared and eagerly anticipating that day.

Daniel says the days and years

You’re absolutely right to point to the Book of Daniel when discussing specific timeframes. Daniel’s prophecies are unique in the Bible for their detailed chronological predictions, often expressed in terms of days, weeks (of years), and “times.”

Here are the key time periods mentioned in Daniel, and how they are commonly interpreted in Christian eschatology:

1. The “Seventy Sevens” or “Seventy Weeks” (Daniel 9:24-27):
   • This is arguably the most famous and meticulously analyzed prophecy in Daniel.
   • It states: “Seventy weeks are decreed about your people and your holy city…”
   • The Hebrew word translated “weeks” (shavuim) can also mean “sevens.” Most scholars understand this to mean “seventy sevens of years“, totaling 490 years.
   • Breakdown:
     • Seven sevens (49 years): This period is often linked to the rebuilding of Jerusalem after the Babylonian exile.
     • Sixty-two sevens (434 years): This period, combined with the first seven sevens, totals 69 sevens (483 years) and is widely believed to culminate in the first coming and “cutting off” (crucifixion) of the Messiah. The starting point is typically taken as a decree to rebuild Jerusalem (e.g., Artaxerxes’ decree in 445 BC).
     • One seven (7 years): This final “week” is where much of the debate and future-looking interpretation lies. Many believe there is a “gap” in the fulfillment of the prophecy between the 69th and 70th week. This final seven-year period is commonly identified as the Tribulation period, which will involve the rise of the Antichrist, a covenant he makes with Israel, and his eventual breaking of that covenant in the middle of the week (after 3.5 years).
2. “Time, Times, and Half a Time” (Daniel 7:25; Daniel 12:7):
   • This phrase is consistently interpreted as 3.5 years.
   • “Time” typically means one year, “times” means two years, and “half a time” means half a year.
   • This period is often equated with:
     • 42 months: (Revelation 11:2; 13:5)
     • 1,260 days: (Revelation 11:3; 12:6)
   • These 3.5 years are commonly seen as the latter half of the final “seven” of Daniel 9, also known as the “Great Tribulation,” during which the Antichrist will exercise his most intense persecution.
3. 1,290 Days (Daniel 12:11):
   • This verse says: “From the time that the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination that causes desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days.”
   • This period is 30 days longer than the 1,260 days (or 3.5 years) mentioned elsewhere.
   • Interpretations for these extra 30 days vary, but often suggest a period of post-tribulation events, such as the cleansing of the land or initial preparations for the millennial kingdom.
4. 1,335 Days (Daniel 12:12):
   • “Blessed is the one who waits for and reaches the end of the 1,335 days.”
   • This is 45 days longer than the 1,290 days, and 75 days longer than the 1,260 days.
   • This period is often seen as leading into the beginning of the Millennial Kingdom, with the “blessing” being entry into that kingdom. The additional days could encompass events like the judgment of the nations (“sheep and goats” judgment in Matthew 25) or further restoration of the earth.
5. 2,300 Evenings and Mornings / Days (Daniel 8:14):
   • “He said to me, ‘For 2,300 evenings and mornings. Then the sanctuary shall be restored to its rightful state.'”
   • This prophecy is widely believed to have had a primary fulfillment in the actions of Antiochus IV Epiphanes in the 2nd century BC, who desecrated the Jewish Temple. The 2,300 evenings and mornings refer to the twice-daily sacrifices that were halted for that period.
   • Some interpretations also see a dual fulfillment, with a future Antichrist mimicking these actions.

Important Considerations:

• Prophetic Day-Year Principle: Many interpreters apply the “day-year principle” to some of Daniel’s prophecies (e.g., Ezekiel 4:6, Numbers 14:34), where a prophetic “day” represents a literal year. This is particularly crucial for understanding the “70 weeks” as 490 years.
• Literal vs. Symbolic: There’s ongoing debate among scholars about whether all these time periods should be taken as literal days/years or if some have symbolic meaning. However, most futurist interpretations of Daniel take the days (1260, 1290, 1335) and weeks (of years) literally in their context.
• The “Gap” Theory: The idea of a “gap” between the 69th and 70th week of Daniel’s prophecy (Daniel 9) is a significant aspect of dispensational theology. This gap is seen as the current church age, after which the final 7-year “week” will commence, leading to the return of Christ.

Daniel’s prophecies are incredibly detailed and have been studied for centuries. They provide a framework for understanding the timing and sequence of many end-time events, though the precise interpretation of every detail can vary.

so have many weeks has it been so far

That’s a great question, and it directly addresses the heart of how Daniel’s prophecy of the “seventy weeks” (Daniel 9:24-27) is understood.

As we discussed, the “seventy weeks” are interpreted as 70 “sevens” of years, meaning a total of 490 years.

The prophecy is broken down into three parts:

1. 7 weeks (49 years): For the rebuilding of Jerusalem.
2. 62 weeks (434 years): Leading to the Messiah.
3. 1 week (7 years): The final week, often seen as the future Tribulation.

The Key is the Starting Point

To determine “how many weeks it has been so far,” we need to identify the starting point of this prophecy. Daniel 9:25 states: “Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the word to restore and build Jerusalem until Messiah the Prince, there shall be seven weeks and sixty-two weeks…”

There are several historical decrees from Persian kings that could potentially fit this description, but the most widely accepted starting point for the 490 years (especially in dispensational interpretations) is the decree issued by Artaxerxes I in 445 BC (or 444 BC by some calculations), as recorded in Nehemiah 2:1-8. This decree gave Nehemiah permission and resources to rebuild the city walls and gates of Jerusalem.

Calculating the First 69 Weeks (483 Years)

• Starting Date: Most calculations begin with the decree in the 20th year of Artaxerxes, which is often dated to March 14, 445 BC.
• Duration: The prophecy states 7 weeks + 62 weeks = 69 weeks, which, using the day-year principle (1 prophetic day = 1 literal year), equals 483 years.
• Arrival of the Messiah: When you calculate 483 years from March 14, 445 BC, you arrive at a date around April 6, 32 AD. This date remarkably aligns with Jesus’ triumphal entry into Jerusalem on what we now call Palm Sunday, where he presented himself as the Messiah.

Where We Are “So Far”

Based on this common interpretation:

• The first 69 weeks (483 years) have already been fulfilled. They culminated in the first coming and “cutting off” (crucifixion) of Jesus Christ.

The “Gap” and the 70th Week

Many prominent interpretations of Daniel’s prophecy propose a “gap” or “intermission” between the 69th week and the 70th week. This gap represents the current Church Age, during which God’s focus is on building the Church, largely composed of Gentiles, and the prophetic clock for Israel is temporarily paused.

Therefore, according to this view:

• The 70th week (the final 7 years) has NOT yet begun. It is believed to be a future period, commonly identified as the Tribulation, which will commence after the Church is raptured.

So, to directly answer your question “how many weeks has it been so far”:

The first 69 prophetic “weeks” (483 literal years) have been fulfilled. We are currently in an unspecified period between the 69th and 70th week. The 70th week is still future.

What about the jew calander return of the king

You’ve touched on a very important distinction! When we talk about the “Jewish calendar and the return of the King,” we’re shifting from Christian interpretations of prophecy to a purely Jewish perspective on the coming of the Messiah (Mashiach).

In Judaism, the Messiah is a human leader, a descendant of King David (hence “King Messiah” or “Mashiach ben David”), who will usher in a Messianic Era. This era is characterized by:

• Political and spiritual redemption of the Jewish people: Gathering Jews from exile back to the Land of Israel.
• Rebuilding the Third Temple in Jerusalem.
• Establishing a Jewish government in Israel that becomes the spiritual and moral center for the entire world.
• World peace: “Nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war anymore” (Isaiah 2:4).
• Universal knowledge of God: All humanity will recognize and serve the one God of Israel.
• Elimination of evil and suffering.

Timing of the Messiah’s Coming in Jewish Thought:

Unlike the Christian reliance on specific prophetic timelines like Daniel’s “weeks,” Jewish tradition generally holds that the exact timing of the Messiah’s coming is not known and can be influenced by human actions.

Here are some key aspects of the Jewish view on timing:

1. “When he is most needed or most deserved”:
   • Some traditions suggest the Messiah will come when the world is in a state of utter sinfulness and despair, making his arrival a necessity for redemption (like a doctor visiting the sick).
   • Others believe he will come when the Jewish people, and humanity in general, achieve a high level of righteousness and spiritual merit, thereby “deserving” his arrival. This emphasizes the concept of Teshuvah (repentance) and Tikkun Olam (repairing the world).
2. No Fixed Date (with some speculation):
   • Maimonides, a towering figure in Jewish philosophy, codified the belief in the Messiah’s coming as one of the 13 principles of Jewish faith, stating: “I believe with a full heart in the coming of the Messiah, and even though he may tarry, I will wait for him every day.” This emphasizes constant readiness and anticipation, not date-setting.
   • While generally rejecting fixed dates, there have been various attempts throughout history by some rabbis to calculate potential times, often based on numerical interpretations of biblical verses or other mystical traditions. However, these calculations are not universally accepted and are often met with skepticism within mainstream Judaism, largely because past predictions have failed.
   • The Talmud does mention a tradition that the Messiah will come before the Hebrew year 6000. The current Hebrew year is 5785 (as of mid-2024 to mid-2025). This leaves about 215 years until that theoretical deadline, but again, this is treated more as a general framework than a precise prediction.
3. The “King is in the Field” (Elul):
   • The month of Elul (the last month of the Jewish year, preceding Rosh Hashanah) is a period of intense introspection and repentance. Jewish tradition says that during Elul, “the King is in the Field,” meaning God is more accessible and readily hears prayers and repentance, making it a particularly propitious time for spiritual growth that could hasten the Messiah’s coming.
4. The Feasts as Prophetic Blueprints (a Messianic Jewish/Christian Perspective):
   • While not a mainstream Jewish teaching, Messianic Judaism (which combines Jewish traditions with belief in Jesus as the Messiah) and some Christian traditions often view the Jewish holidays (Moedim, or “appointed times”) as prophetic blueprints for the Messiah’s first and second comings.
     • Spring Feasts (Passover, Unleavened Bread, Firstfruits, Pentecost): Believed to have been fulfilled by Jesus’ first coming (crucifixion, burial, resurrection, and the giving of the Holy Spirit).
     • Fall Feasts (Rosh Hashanah/Feast of Trumpets, Yom Kippur/Day of Atonement, Sukkot/Feast of Tabernacles): Believed to represent events related to the Messiah’s second coming.
       • Rosh Hashanah (Feast of Trumpets): Often associated with the “last trumpet” and the gathering of believers.
       • Yom Kippur (Day of Atonement): Associated with national repentance of Israel and judgment.
       • Sukkot (Feast of Tabernacles): Associated with the Messianic Kingdom and dwelling with God.

In summary, from a traditional Jewish perspective, the return of the “King” (Mashiach) is a fundamental belief and a fervent hope, but it’s not tied to specific countdowns on the Jewish calendar in the way some Christian interpretations use Daniel. Instead, it’s about living righteously, performing good deeds, and continually striving for repentance and holiness, as these actions are believed to hasten the arrival of the Messianic Age.

wormwood sign of Christ

In biblical prophecy, particularly in the Book of Revelation, Wormwood is not a sign of Christ’s return directly, but rather a sign of severe judgment and calamity that occurs during the period preceding or accompanying His return.

Let’s break down its meaning and context:

Revelation 8:10-11 is the primary passage:

“The third angel sounded his trumpet, and a great star, blazing like a torch, fell from the sky on a third of the rivers and on the springs of water— the name of the star is Wormwood. A third of the waters turned bitter, and many people died from the waters that had become bitter.”

Here’s what this passage and the broader biblical understanding of “wormwood” convey:

1. Symbol of Bitterness, Suffering, and Divine Judgment:
   • In the Old Testament, “wormwood” (Hebrew: la’anah) is consistently used metaphorically to describe intense bitterness, sorrow, affliction, and the dire consequences of disobedience and sin. It’s often paired with “gall” (another bitter substance).
   • Examples: Deuteronomy 29:18 (warning against a “root bearing poisonous and bitter fruit [wormwood]”); Jeremiah 9:15, 23:15 (God feeding His disobedient people “wormwood and poisoned water”); Lamentations 3:15, 19 (the prophet’s intense suffering likened to being filled with wormwood).
   • In Revelation, the “star named Wormwood” falling on the waters signifies a literal event that brings about widespread suffering and death due to contaminated (bitter and poisonous) fresh water. It’s a severe divine judgment.
2. Part of the Trumpet Judgments:
   • The event of Wormwood occurs as the third of the seven trumpet judgments in Revelation. These trumpet judgments are a series of catastrophic events that unfold on Earth as part of God’s wrath, leading up to the final culmination of His plan.
   • They are “partial” judgments (affecting a “third” of the earth, sea, rivers, or heavenly bodies), indicating that they are severe warnings and opportunities for repentance before the even more devastating “bowl judgments.”
3. Not Christ Himself, Nor a Direct Sign of His Immediate Arrival:
   • Wormwood is a consequence of divine judgment, not a manifestation of Christ. Christ’s return is described as glorious, visible to all, and associated with His victory and righteous rule, not with poisoning water sources.
   • While it is an “end-times” event and part of the sequence leading to the very end, it’s a sign of the Tribulation period (or a period of intense judgment within it), rather than a direct “sign of Christ” in the sense of His appearing. It’s a sign that humanity’s rebellion is bringing about dire consequences.

Interpretations of the “Star Wormwood”:

• Literal Celestial Event: Many interpret “a great star, blazing like a torch” as a literal asteroid, comet, or other celestial body that impacts Earth, causing massive contamination of freshwater.
• Symbolic Figure: Some historical interpretations have seen “Wormwood” as symbolic of a powerful leader or a heretical teaching that brings spiritual bitterness and corruption.
• The Chernobyl Connection: A notable modern interpretation (though often considered speculative by biblical scholars) links “Wormwood” to the Chernobyl nuclear disaster, as “Chernobyl” is derived from a Ukrainian word for a type of wormwood plant (Artemisia vulgaris). This interpretation sees the nuclear fallout as a literal fulfillment of the waters being made bitter and deadly.

In summary, “Wormwood” is a vivid prophetic image in Revelation representing a significant act of divine judgment that brings immense suffering and bitterness to a portion of the Earth’s freshwater supply. It signals escalating tribulation and serves as a powerful warning, but it is distinct from the actual return of Jesus Christ, which is portrayed as a triumphant and redemptive event for His followers.