All about Cathy O’Brien: Ex-Illuminati NWO Mind Control Victim

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For Reasons of National Security
(Intro – Mark Phillips. Cathy O’Brien – 0:36:50)
The Granada Forum, October 31, 1996 

Cathy O’Brien
Born 4 December 1957
Muskegon, Michigan
Nationality American
Occupation Writer, speaker
Known for Conspiracy theorist, statements of victimization by Project Monarch
Spouse(s) Mark Phillips
Children Kelly O’Brien
Parents Earl M. O’Brien

Carol O’Brien (née Tanis)

Website
http://trance-formation.com/

Contents

  

On May 7, 1966 a 9 year old child named Cathy O’Brien was subjected to an occult ritual named “The Rite to Remain Silent”. This is her own very shocking and eye-opening life story about her experience as a CIA MK-Ultra Whitehouse Pentagon level trauma-based Mind Control slave. She speaks out to expose those who abused, who go right up to presidents and congressmen and women and to give voice to the many mind control victims out there who can’t think to speak out.

O’Brien claims to have been abused since she was a toddler by her own family. Forced to partake in satanic sadomasochistic child pornography movies produced for Gerald Ford, she was eventually sold to the CIA, which was looking for traumatized children for their mind-control program … U.S. Presidents Ford, Reagan, Bush and Bill Clinton; Canadian Prime Ministers Pierre Trudeau and Brian Mulroney; Mexican President Miguel de la Madrid; Haitian dictator Baby Doc Duvalier; Panamanian President Manuel Noriega; and King Fahd of Saudi Arabia all sexually brutalized her. She recounts in graphic detail how the elder George Bush raped her thirteen year old daughter and how she was forced to have oral sex with Illuminati witch Hillary Clinton … While being sodomized, whipped, bound and raped, O’Brien overheard the globalist elite planning a military coup in the United States and conspiring to usher in the satanic New World Order

The Q&A (question and answers) starts at 1:35:00

This section Copied from:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathy_O’Brien

Cathleen Ann O’Brien (born December 4, 1957, Muskegon, Michigan[1]) is an American who says she is a victim of a mind control government project named Project Monarch, which she said was part of the CIA’s Project MKULTRA forbehavioral engineering of humans (mind control).[2][3][4][5][6] O’Brien made these assertions in Trance Formation of America (1995) and Access Denied: For Reasons of National Security (2004) which she co-authored with her husband Mark Phillips.[6]

Assertions[edit]

The memories that O’Brien has asserted she possesses were retrieved through the use of hypnosis. The specific program which she claimed was responsible for herdissociative identity disorder, Project Monarch, is not mentioned in reviews of MKULTRA, its alleged parent program. Because most MKULTRA records were deliberately destroyed in 1973 by order of then CIA Director Richard Helms, it has been difficult, if not impossible, for investigators to gain a complete understanding of the more than 150 individually funded research sub-projects sponsored by MKULTRA and related CIA programs.[7][8] In 1977, Richard Helms was suspended by the US Congress for lying about the US government’s anti-government activities abroad and illegal surveillance domestically.[9]

O’Brien also states that she has a recollection of child abuse — of her and her daughter — by international pedophile rings, drug barons and satanists, as part of asex slave aspect to her “trauma based mind control programming.” Individuals from United StatesCanadianMexican and Saudi Arabian government officials to stars of the Country and Western music scene are among those she accuses of these crimes. According to scholar Michael Barkun, investigations into the story produced no credible evidence and numerous inconsistencies.[5]

Project Monarch[edit]

O’Brien says she was recruited against her will by the CIA and her abusive father as a child, through a network of child pornographers he was involved with, and forced to participate in a mind control program named Project Monarch, which is said to be a subsection of Project MKULTRA and Project ARTICHOKE.[2][3][4][5]

Multiple personality[edit]

O’Brien says that she has developed dissociative identity disorder (previously misnomered as multiple personality disorder) and that she has no memory of some of her activities. She also says that she has a photographic recall of the events that she suffered whilst her alternate personalities were in control.[6]

Criticisms of O’Brien[edit]

Swedish scholar Mattias Gardell states that O’Brien’s assertions are almost entirely unsupported by any evidence outside her testimony or the similarly unverified testimony of others.[10] Michael Barkun states that “scholarly and journalistic treatments of MK-ULTRA make no mention of a Project Monarch”.[5]

Her stories have entered the conspiracy culture, linking assertions of satanic ritual abuse with MKUltra.[11] Mark Dice was skeptical of her assertions, but also commented, “there are very real victims of such programs” and “it is possible that a victim would write a book about them and have nobody believe her.”[12]

Other videos on Mind Control:

Illuminati & Pre-9/11 Subliminals and Symbolism in Movies (Re-edit)
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Britney Spears Illuminati Mind Control Victim
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80c_b…

Bill Clinton under mind control
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DUmb…

9/11 Subliminals: GCSE Exam Papers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhnGNS…

RFID Mind Control
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPsFXh…

Cathy O’Brien (with full index)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2S3fla…

Footnotes[edit]

  1. Jump up^ O’Brien, Cathy. “Trance Formation Of America”. Retrieved 17 May 2012.
  2. Jump up to:a b Versluis, A (2006). The new inquisitions: heretic-hunting and the intellectual origins of modern totalitarianism. Oxford [Oxfordshire]: Oxford University Press. p. 173.ISBN 0-19-530637-6. Retrieved 2008-10-20.
  3. Jump up to:a b de Young, M (2004). The day care ritual abuse moral panic. Jefferson, N.C: McFarland. p. 235. ISBN 0-7864-1830-3. Retrieved 2008-10-20.
  4. Jump up to:a b Toropov B (2001). The complete idiot’s guide to urban legends. Indianapolis, Ind: Alpha Books. p. 221. ISBN 0-02-864007-1. Retrieved 2008-10-20.
  5. Jump up to:a b c d Barkun, Michael (2003). A culture of conspiracy: apocalyptic visions in contemporary America. Berkeley: University of California Press. p. 76. ISBN 0-520-23805-2. Retrieved 2008-10-20.
  6. Jump up to:a b c Phillips, Mark (1995). TranceFormation of America (pdf). Reality Marketing, Incorporated. ISBN 0-9660165-4-8. Retrieved 2008-10-20.
  7. Jump up^ Walter H. Bowart (January 1971), Operation Mind Control, Dell Publishing
  8. Jump up^ John D. Marks (1979), The Search for the ‘Manchurian Candidate’: The CIA and Mind Control: The Secret History of the Behavioral Sciences, Penguin Books Ltd., retrieved 2013-10-27
  9. Jump up^ Christopher Marquis. “Richard Helms, Ex-C.I.A. Chief, Dies at 89”. New York Times. Retrieved 2013-10-27.
  10. Jump up^ Gardell M (2003). Gods of the blood: the pagan revival and white separatism. Durham, N.C: Duke University Press. ISBN 0-8223-3071-7. Retrieved 2008-10-20.
  11. Jump up^ Knight P (2003). Conspiracy Theories in American History: An Encyclopedia. Santa Barbara, Calif: ABC-CLIO. pp. 487ISBN 1-57607-812-4.
  12. Jump up^ Mark Dice“Cathy O’Brien’s Claims of Being an MK-ULTRA victim”. Retrieved 2013-07-31.

External links[edit]

Cell Phones WiIl Hurt you! (Everywhere) Privacy you no longer have!

English: Mobile phone evolution Русский: Эволю...
English: Mobile phone evolution Русский: Эволюция мобильных телефонов (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

 

After reviewing just the basic programs that you need to operate a smart phone…when you go to applications, for example and look at google mail..it states they have right to go into your mail, look at your documents and alter (even if it is confidential) , change your contacts or even delete contacts, have access to your text message and pictures, they can even use your text and phone to call and send messages. So with that said…they have access to your mail by default because you have to use that program on your phone to be activated for most functions on your phone to work properly.
If you go through all the programs you have on your phone before adding more apps, they all say pretty much the same thing. But look at the big picture…where are these phone made (China, Japan, Korea)! Government employees are using these phones just as much as anyone else..what can be worse then countries that are making these phones have access to sensitive material including personal information that can be of use in sensitive ways including…where they are, their pictures, their contacts and their email documents.
Now your family members are adding app after app with location settings needing to be active on the devices for them to be of service. With that said there is apps and even programs that someone can see all cell phones in that area so a possible predator can single out possible victims. What about some family members who take pictures of their drivers license, SSN and other highly personal information for identity theft to be easy..not alone..logging into bank accounts..in which you are allowing the manufacture to have access to with your passwords and all. Also think about this, these apps also are being allowed to turn on your video camand recorder on your cell at any given time to listen and look at your surroundings. They do not have to inform you when they do, what they alter or delete or whom they give your information to. Also keep in mind that a lot of the apps are created by criminals that are making it legal to commit crimes against you by just getting their free app.So the matter of this news story, if we buy these cell phones from a company ..just say Sprint, shouldn’t they be liability for use licensing with the apps for the purpose of the basic operation of the phone and not carried over to us making ourselves liable for any misuse of our privacy in which will will not know? Should the consumer buying the cell phone have licensing right to know when an invasion by the app provider went into the phone and made changes?

For another quick check of what your allowing your cell phone maker to do to you…go to settings, then look at what system your phone uses..Android system for example, click that and read of the privacy you no longer have!

Let me not to forget to mention the negative heath effects Cell phones can have on your body because of the radiation-emitting  device inside of cell phones that allow it to transmit the communication signals

By Dr. Mercola

If you’re an avid cell phone user who refuses to believe that holding this radiation-emitting device next to your head poses a potential health risk, take note…

Italy‘s supreme court has ruled that a man’s brain tumor is, in fact, linked to his heavy cell phone use.

Heavy Cell Phone Use Caused Business Exec’s Tumor

The court’s assessment included studies by Professor Lennart Hardell of Sweden, stating they had more cases, involved long-term use and were independent (as opposed to Interphone’s industry funding). Hardell has found that those who begin using cell phones heavily as teenagers have 4 to 5 times more brain cancer as young adults!

Just 50 Minutes of Cell Phone Use Alters Your Brain

Even if you don’t use a cell phone for hours each day, research by leading brain imaging researcher Nora D. Volkow, MD of the National Institutes of Health, revealed that after just 50 minutes of cell phone exposure, the emitted radiation increases brain cell activity in the region closest to the cell phone antenna.1 The exact health effects of that increased brain activity are as of yet unknown, but the study effectively debunked the myth in U.S. government research circles that cell phone radiation at non-thermal levels is incapable of causing biological change.

So keep using your cell phone if you don’t give a crap about your health and the Antichrist NWO Global Government spying on you.  And when your sitting in a NDDA Death Camp don’t call me to get you out and fix your brain. I tried to tell you but you didn’t listen you brainwashed boot licking Zombie’s

http://www.foodconsumer.org/newsite/Non-food/Environment/cell_phone_tumor_court_ruling_1107120716.html

At least three Ancient Antarctica Pyramids Underground City’s Found

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A team of researchers are claiming that they have discovered three ancient pyramids on the ice covered continent of Antarctica. Exact details are sketchy, but the team have released three intriguing pictures of their discovery.

The international team comprises researchers from the United States, and several other, are from various European countries. Two of the huge pyramid structures were found approximately 10 miles inland, the third one not far from the coastline, clearly visible from ocean.

Can it be possible that Antarctica was once warm enough in the recent past to actually have had an ancient civilization living there?  And even more perplexing is the question of if an advanced culture did develop there, are there any structures still remaining that are buried underneath the ice?  Amazingly a team of researchers is making the claim that they have found evidence of several ancient pyramids on the ice covered continent of Antarctica.

The team are currently planning an expedition to reach one of the pyramids to find out if it is a natural or an artificial structure. No further Details have been reported from the team as of 29 August 2012. More news is pending. Im undecided on this one guys until further confirmation, so as always you decide.

Underground Pyramid base entrance, maybe.  One thing I can tell you is that what you are seeing is the Antarctic Triangle.  Put in to hide whats really there.  Underground City‘s they dont want you to know about or to find.  I have done some research and what I have found is other groups have tried to go to the Antarctic to find its secrets and have not returned or if they have will not talk about what they have found!

Have the Russian team inadvertently stumbled across something not meant to be seen, somethingburied many years ago by Aliens or earthly forces? Hopefully they will reveal all when they eventuallymanage to make contact… but in the world of conspiracy and secrets people have a habit of turningup dead.

A Russian team trying to reach the alien structure discovered by a roving satellite miles below the Antarctica  ice only have a limited period each year when work in the region is possible.
They last contacted their base on January 30th this year and they are now down to less than 48 hoursbefore temperatures fall to the lethal level and escape would be impossible!
The scientists carry Iridium satellite phones for communication, but there are black spots.
At the moment, nobody knows what has happened to them!
Read on for the full story.

In 1947 the US Navy under Admiral Byrd conducted Operation High Jump. The expedition to Antarctica involved 4000 naval personnel and 13 huge ships, including several large airplanes and helicopters. The goal was to map and catalog all of the coastline of the continent, including minerals and wildlife. The entire expedition was to last 6 months.

During the expedition a base was established at Little America, a coastal bay, and a tent city was constructed where aircraft could be maintained for the survey. Several teams of explorers were sent out to various corners of Antarctica with large format cameras for the photographic survey. When the crew photographing the region directly Southwest of the Australian continent arrived for their mission they were shocked. They radioed back that the coastal region was free of ice and that the water was 38F. They continued to take photographs and later returned to process the images.

Immediately after this event the entire expedition was halted and all ships and Naval personnel were made to return to the States. The results of the mission are still classified, after 60 years. Only Admiral Byrd, who was interviewed by a Chilean journalist on his trip home from the expedition, commented on the sudden return home. He stated that there was a danger which this expedition had encountered that posed a threat to every nation in the free world. He declined to elaborate on this.

http://rense.com/general32/aryan.htm   

For five years, the Germans carried out work for the creation of a secret project code-named “Base-211,” This has been determined by several independent experts. By the end of WWII, the Germans already had nine scientific enterprises where “flying disk” projects were tested. Many scientists are positive that at least one of these Third Reich enterprises was transferred to the Antarctic. Famous researchers of the Third Reich’s Antarctic mysteries, R. Vesko, V. Terziysky, and D. Childress, claim that from 1942, thousands of concentration camp prisoners, prominent scientists, pilots, politicians with their families, and members of the Hitlerjugend were taken to the South Pole via submarine. Some scientists believe that a German base still remains in the Antarctic. Moreover, it is even said that there is an underground Aryan city called New Berlin, which has a population of two million people.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/antarctica/antartica12.htm

Representatives of three occult societies, “Thule”, “Vril” and “Ahnenerbe”, ran those projects.
Famous researchers of the Third Reich’s Antarctic mysteriesR.VeskoV.Terzisky, and D.Childress, claim that from 1942, thousands of concentration camp prisoners, prominent scientists, pilots, politicians with their families, and members of the Hitlerjugend were taken to the South Pole via submarine. Some scientists believe that a German base still remains in the Antarctic. Moreover, it is even said that there is an underground Aryan city called New Berlin, which has a population of two million people.

This has been determined by several independent experts. By the end of WWII, the Germans already had nine scientific enterprises where “flying disk” projects were tested. Many scientists are positive that at least one of these Third Reich enterprises was transferred to the Antarctic.

An ancient hi-tech “city” nicknamed “Rainbow City” was reportedly discovered in Antarctica by a small group of American researchers in the late 1940’s.

Reportedly an on-site staff of 2000 was later stationed there to study the ancient mechanical devices, the operation of time-space portals, holographic records, and an ancient underground ‘rail’ system with Rainbow City being the central hub. Antigravity craft are also reportedly being used by the researchers.

~The Hefferlin Manuscript; Rainbow City and the Inner Earth People, by Timothy Green Beckley

Conspiracy theorists recall the rumor, following WWII, of Nazi bases that were established in Antarctica. Other stories say that the Nazis contacted and were working with a group of extra-terrestrials and that there is an huge underground base there.

We’re not sure whether or not this is a base, but it does look un-natural and somehow maintained free of ice. We welcome any suggestions or comments.

Besides these images, the team is remaining pretty silent with their discovery until more research can be conducted on these pyramids.  I was able to obtain some small bits of information from a friend of one of the team members though.  The team is made up of 8 explorers from America and several European countries.  Two of the pyramid structures were found approximately 10 miles inland while the third one was very close to the coastline.  The team is currently planning an expedition to physically reach at least one of the pyramids to determine if it is natural or artificial.  No time frame was given as to when this expedition will be taking place though.

So, what is your opinion on these pyramids?  Are we on the verge of perhaps one of biggest archaeological discoveries ever or are these structures nothing but natural formations?  Be sure to stay tuned to this one ……

Read more: http://scienceray.com/biology/man-made-ancient-pyramids-found-on-antarctica/#ixzz26bi9AdbA

http://www.viewzone.com/antarcticbase.html

With google-earth we now have the ability to see the coast line of Antarctica in great detail from satellite images. We see the coast that was photographed, as well as some mountains that are free of ice or snow. We can see the ice breaking up in this region as if melting from some source of heat. But what’s more remarkable is that we can see some kind of an entrance.

The image above is readily available to anyone using google-earth and the coordinates provided. I suggest you try to examine this location at an angle instead of just straight down, and maintain the true North. The entrance appears to be about 180 feet wide by 230 feet high. Outside there are some straight surfaces which appear man made.

Lake Ontario has Secret Underwater Military Base

 

English: Map of Lake Ontario. Category:Michiga...
English: Map of Lake Ontario. Category:Michigan maps (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

 

Recently I was talking with two different sources that will remain anonymous to protect the identification from possible government prosecution about Underground area 51 sites around the world.  I was told that Lake Ontario had one from Co-worker who was an ex Marine who was a Military Police who protected that base.  It was said that if threat of Nuclear War ever broke out that this is one the place that the US president would go.  He said that the area is protected by the US Coast Guard and US Military.

 

The second source is a friends mother who dated a high up government official who bragged to her about this secret underwater military base, under Lake Ontario that he was aware of,  He said that if anything was to happen during the Cold war with the Russians   like a Nuclear War was to go hot that he and his family would be protected from nuclear fall out at that underwater base!

 

Now I have no first hand knowledge of this underwater base only hearsay, but I have no reason to believe that these two people would have any reason to lie to me or about this place.  Neither of these people knew of each other and about talking to me about this underwater base.  So I have done some of my own research into this topic and have given my research results on this blog post.  Happy hunting!  If you have any evidence or knowledge of this please feel free to contact me about this and we can add your info to this post!

 

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According to Malcolm Williams, researcher for the Northeastern UFO Organization, infrared photos taken in the dark of night from the shores of Lake Ontario show all sorts of anomalies which cannot be either conventional aircraft or meteorological phenomena. Taken on various occasions, the photos show a pattern of lights in the sky which are definitely under intelligent control as they zig zag from one position to another in the heavens. One photo shows an object actually resting on top of the water, apparently about ready to make a plunge beneath Lake Ontario.

 

Many of the photos taken by Malcolm Williams, a former member of the Royal Astronomical Association, were done from a position which would indicate that the main area of interest is over the lake between Oakville and Toronto. This theory is supported by Harry Picken, an aeronautical engineer, pilot, and past president of Genair Ltd., a St. Catharine’s aircraft research firm. Picken, who owns a home right on the banks of the lake, has been keeping tabs on the aerial movements near his property for years. One of the most peculiar things the engineer has noticed is that the lights are usually orange, a color foreign to aircraft lights. “The orange color indicates to me a high sodium content in the light source. Sodium is never used in conventional aircraft lighting,” he further points out.

 

Both Harry Picken and Malcolm Williams believe that the UFO activity over Lake Ontario is somehow related to the fact that a high voltage hydro generating station is located at nearby Lakeview. The UFOs have been seen repeatedly to lift up from the lake and head in the direction of the plant.

 

Over the years, many odd occurrences have taken place in and around Lake Ontario. In his book, “The Great Lakes Triangle,” Jay Gourley tells of several air mishaps in this very locale, adding substance to the theory that something totally “alien” is operating in and around this body of water.

 

“There is little doubt that the pilot of the twin jet CF-101 Canadian Air Force interceptor, number 18112, knew he was in trouble on August 23, 1954,” Gourley states in his well researched reference work on the subject. “He was near Ajax, Ontario, on the north shore of Lake Ontario. He bailed out. He explained later that the aircraft became impossible to control. Publicly, the Canadian Defense Headquarters refused to reveal the cause of the accident. The official cause is classified secret. I have seen this secret file. It says the scientists who studied the case could not determine what caused the jet to become unmanageable.” It could be that UFOs utilizing highly magnetized equipment beneath the surface could have accidentally or purposely pulled the aircraft out of the sky.

 

 

 

 

 

http://www.ufodigest.com/article/lake-shining-waters-%E2%80%93-historical-perspective

 

 

United States Coast Guard Seal, in correct PMS...
United States Coast Guard Seal, in correct PMS colors. This emblem shall only be used in accordance with the Coast Guard Heraldry Manual, and is not to be reproduced commercially without prior approval of the U.S. Coast Guard. (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

 

Satellite photo of Round Lake, Renfrew County,...
Satellite photo of Round Lake, Renfrew County, Ontario. (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

 

Early map of Lake Ontario
Early map of Lake Ontario (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

 

Lake Ontario NASA
Lake Ontario NASA (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

 

A retired secret service agent admits to the public about the underground tunnel system at 5:10 in this video:

 

 

 

 

 

Asteroids threatening Earth in 2013 could this be the Biblical Wormwood?

The impact of a meteorite or comet is today wi...

Recently I was informed by a informant who would like to remain Anonymous who has connections to Washington insiders. I was told by him that A dangerous asteroid, known as DA14 is heading toward the Earth and was spotted by NASA three years after it had got onto its current orbit. I was told that this asteroid has a 30% chance of hitting Earth around February 2013 at a distance of under 27,000 km (16,700 miles). The problem is that time has long run out to build a spaceship to carry out an rescue operation to stop its possible impact with earth but further calculation is required to estimate the potential threat and work out how to avert possible disaster. What I was told is that the Governments of the world are in fact planning on what to do about this asteroid and how to avert a possible human catastrophe in preparing the world populations for an announcement for a possible impact. scientists suggest confronting asteroid 2012 DA14 with either paint or big guns.

Chart of detected NEO's
Chart of detected NEO’s (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

“The Earth’s gravitational field will alter the asteroid’s path significantly. Further scrupulous calculation is required to estimate the threat of collision,” said Dr. Dunham, as transcribed by Russia’s Izvestia. “The asteroid may break into dozens of small pieces, or several large lumps may split from it and burn up in the atmosphere. The type of the asteroid and its mineral structure can be determined by spectral analysis. This will help predict its behavior in the atmosphere and what should be done to prevent the potential threat,” said NASA expert Dr. Dunham.

In the event of a collision, scientists have calculated that the energy released would equate to the destructive power of a thermo-nuclear bomb. In response to the threat, scientists have come up with some ingenious methods to avert a potential disaster.

A spaceship is needed, experts agree. It could shoot the rock down or just crash into it, either breaking the asteroid into debris or throwing it off course.

“We could paint it,” says NASA expert David Dunham.

Paint would affect the asteroid’s ability to reflect sunlight, changing its temperature and altering its spin. The asteroid would stalk off its current course, but this could also make the boulder even more dangerous when it comes back in 2056, Aleksandr Devaytkin, the head of the observatory in Russia’s Pulkovo, told Izvestia.

Spaceship impossible?

Whatever the mission, building a spaceship to deal with 2012 DA14 will take two years – at least.

The asteroid has proven a bitter discovery. It has been circling in orbit for three years already, crossing Earth’s path several times, says space analyst Sergey Naroenkov from the Russian Academy of Sciences. It seems that spotting danger from outer space is still the area where mere chance reigns, while asteroid defense systems exist only in drafts.

Still, prospects of meeting 2012 DA14 are not all doom and gloom.

“The asteroid may split into pieces entering the atmosphere. In this case, most part of it will never reach the planet’s surface,” remarks Dunham.

But if the entire asteroid is to crash into the planet, the impact will be as hard as in the Tunguska blast, which in 1908 knocked down trees over a total area of 2,150 sq km (830 sq miles) in Siberia. This is almost the size of Luxembourg. In today’s case, the destination of the asteroid is yet to be determined.

Could this be the Biblical Wormwood, αψίνθιον (apsinthion) or άψινθος (apsinthos) in Greek, is a star, or angel,[1] that appears in the Biblical New Testament Book of Revelation.

Book of Revelation: “And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon a third of the rivers, and upon the springs of water; And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and a third of the waters became Bitter; and many people had died of the waters, because they were made bitter.” (Revelation 8:10, 11 – KJV).

Futurist interpretations

Various scientific scenarios have been theorized on the effects of an asteroid or comet‘s collision with Earth. An applicable scenario theorizes a chemical change in the atmosphere due to “heat shock” during entry and/or impact of a large asteroid or comet, reacting oxygen and nitrogen in the atmosphere to produce nitric-acid rain.[6] Acid rain from the heat shock of a large comet or asteroid’s impact with Earth is believed by some to fit the Biblical description of the bitterness produced by the Wormwood Star upon a third of the Earth’s potable water. [7]

And the name of the star is called Wormwood – Is appropriately so called. The writer does not say that it would be actually so called, but that this name would be properly descriptive of its qualities. Such expressions are common in allegorical writings. The Greek word – ἄψινθος apsinthos – denotes “wormwood,” a well-known bitter herb. That word becomes the proper emblem of bitterness. Compare

Jeremiah 9:15Jeremiah 23:15Lamentations 3:15Lamentations 3:19.

for more information http://rt.com/news/paint-asteroid-earth-nasa-767/

Asteroid Belt
Asteroid Belt (Photo credit: Wikipedia)
Pie chart of the masses of the twelve most-mas...
Pie chart of the masses of the twelve most-massive asteroids per Baer (2011), relative to the mass of the main asteroid belt. (Photo credit: Wikipedia)
Chart of detected NEO's
Chart of detected NEO’s (Photo credit: Wikipedia)
Timelapse of Asteroid 2004 FH's flyby (NASA/JP...
Timelapse of Asteroid 2004 FH’s flyby (NASA/JPL Public Domain) 2004 FH is the centre dot being followed by the sequence; the object that flashes by near the end is an artificial satellite. Images obtained by Stefano Sposetti, Switzerland on March 18, 2004. Animation made Raoul Behrend, Geneva Observatory, Switzerland. (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

2012 DA14 orbit diagram

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As if there weren’t already enough signs in the Heavens, Comet Pan-Starrs will be passing over Israel with the arrival of Barack Obama in this Year of the Comet.

Throughout history, comets have been interpreted as harbingers of plague, impending disaster, or the ascension of a new king.

From YouTube videographer TheInfoCollecter: This is no coincidence my friend, along with everything else we’re seeing happen daily, this harbinger appears. Wake Up. We Fly Soon!

I disagree with a few statement he makes in the video below. I think that Christians are rapidly awakening, it’s those who are ‘not in touch’ who have yet to have awoken to what’s clearly becoming seen to most as prophecy unfolding.

If you think that Comet Pan-Starrs is something, you haven’t seen anything yet. Wait until the arrival of Comet ISON later in the year. Comet ISON is being spoken of as the “comet of the century

It is very rare to see two bright comets in one year according to NASA. Comet ISON could shine as brightly as a full moon in the middle of the day.  The comet will reach its perihelion on Nov. 28.   Subscribe to Live Free Or Die for video updates on YouTube.

Of course the LA Times had to throw this into their Comet ISON story.:

And there’s no chance the comet, even if it breaks apart, will hit the Earth, experts say.

Here’s a movie clip from “Deep Impact” for an example of what will not be happening with this possible comet of the century. But the special effects are cool.

 

Do you have your Underground bases ready for 2012 Better safe than sorry!

Are you ready for Dec 21, 2012 have you got your bug-out pack good to go!

Military underground bases for sale are increasingly known nowadays due to their potential in developing many of the world’s industries. It can be used in many different fields if you may only consider the benefits that it can offer. It can provide much of the security and the safety needed by almost everyone. The only downside that we may consider in these structures is the fact that they are really expensive. They can cost millions of dollars but it can be assured that what you are spending for will be worth it. It is said that these military underground bases for sale are worth the investment.From being a potential home to that being a potential business facility, military underground bases for sale can be considered as a great breakthrough in the field of infrastructure development.

20th Century Castles, LLC offers several decommissioned missile base properties.  They have sold 57 of these sites as of January 2012 and They are proud to offer these below.  If you are interested in learning more, They offer site-specific video tours of most of the properties we offer.  A video tour is worth 10,000 words and are a prerequisite to an onsite inspection.

http://www.missilebases.com/

About them!
Ed and Diana Peden Edward and Dianna Peden live in a refurbished Atlas E site near Topeka, Kansas, and by the spring of 1995 were attracting considerable media interest. Because of the outpouring of interest from others wanting to purchase similar properties, they formed a company called “20th Century Castles”.  So named because the properties are the hardened defense-works of this century, modern counterparts to the medieval castles of Europe. 
Subterra Entrance As media exposure continued to expand worldwide, the company began extensive research to locate all of the first generation sites that were built throughout the U.S. We found many properties to be owned by cities, counties, school districts, water companies and other commercial entities. About half the properties are privately owned. We have contacted many owners and negotiated to acquire Option-to-Purchase wherever possible. By the spring of 1996, 20th Century Castles offered 12 properties for sale.  Over the years our company has gained more Options and made sales to establish us as the leader in this unique market.  
The company is operated by Ed and Dianna Peden from their underground office near Topeka, KS. At this time 49 properties have been sold and the Pedens plan to continue in the specialized marketing niche even as properties dwindle in availability.

 

 

If you are serious about any of these properties, select your favorite, purchase its video and after you have watched it, feel free to contact Ed Peden at: info@missilebases.com or ph. 785-256-6029. 
Atlas F site - Adirondack State Park

Cutaway view of the home above and below ground

                                     

     Atlas F site 

Upstate NY’s Adirondack State Park

20 acres (or more). Most highly developed Atlas F site, part of exclusive airport subdivision on (FAA approved) 2050′ runway,  Low taxes. Privacy, security, and, unlimited possibilities. NO other like it anywhere.

Drastic Price Reduction!  

Reduced from $4.6 million to $750,000!

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Nike site - Northern Maine

Nike Site Cincinatti Newly Available!
Nike site 

Northern Maine (Near New Brunswick, Canadian border)

17+ acres, surrounded by gorgeous farmland, original high security barbed wire fencing intact. Property has original well and newer pump with water lines to barracks, house, shop and pump house. Surface buildings are in good condition with rubber roofs, insulation, heat, power and working bathrooms. Barracks building is converted into a 3-bedroom apartment. Current owners have lived on property nearly 20 years and have planted trees, fruit orchards, shrubs and hedges.

Price $349,000. 

Click here for more photos and info.

 

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Nike site - SE Indiana

Nike Site Cincinatti Price Reduction!
Nike site 

Southeastern Indiana (near Cincinnati) 

14 + acres.  45 min drive to the Cincinnati airport.  Has three underground missile magazines 5,000 sq. ft. each.  One missile magazine is converted to residential with a kitchen, 4 BR, 2 bath, exercise room, jacuzzi and indoor swimming pool. Another is converted into a shop and garage. High security fencing, paved access and 4 stall horse barn.

Price Reduction!  now $1,350,000.

Price $1.5 million

Click here for more photos and info.Click here to order a video tour of this site.

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Nike site - SW Ohio

Nike Site Under Contract
Nike site 

Southwestern Ohio (near Cincinnati) 

14.57 acres, ideally situated to Cincinnati.
Surrounded by beautiful farmland and nice homes; situated near a nice equestrian arena, Cowan Lake, and other outdoor sport and adventure areas.

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Price $279,000.

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Titan II site - near Tucson, AZ

Titan II missile base picture Titan II site

 Tucson, AZ (near)

14 total acres on a secluded desert setting with mountain views and surrounded by state land.  The heaviest built, strongest structure available. Cost $20 million 1960’s dollars to build.  Video available.

Price: $540,000.  (travel fee of $250. to show)

Click here to order a video tour of this site.  


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Atlas F, Central Kansas

            

Atlas F property

Central Kansas (near Abilene, KS)

This Atlas F site sits on 10 (m/l) acres. It is one of the best undeveloped sites we have seen.  The top floor of Launch Control (!,200 sq ft) is open, usable, painted and has single phase electrical. A quonset is currently a machine shop with an office, bathroom and shower. A residential trailer is on the property for living space.

Click here for more info and pictures.

Click here to order the video for this site.

Price $349,000.

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Atlas E site - Osage City, KS

 Atlas E in operation     Atlas E Property

Osage City, KS (commuting distance to Topeka,KS)

This Atlas E site has 25 acres (more or less) and paved access. It has rural water and an electrical system on site and ready for re-connection. The perimeter is enclosed with barbed wire fence.  The Atlas E “coffin style” structure is the best missile site type for retrofit use. This site has 15,000 sq. ft of hardened underground floor space.

Price:  $285,000.

Click here for more info.

Pictures and video of the Osage City site available soon. (Shown to the left is a picture of an Atlas E during the 1950’s time of active use, Kansas location.)

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Atlas E site - Bushong, KS

 Atlas E in operation     Atlas E Property

Bushong, KS (10 miles east of Council Grove, KS)    Newly Available!  

This Atlas E site has 23 acres (more or less) with partial paved access. There are two water well sites and the sewage lagoon system is in place.  This site has been salvaged but has lots of heavy concrete structures remaining.

Price:  $185,000.

Click here for more info.

Pictures and video of the Bushong, KS site available soon. (Shown to the left is a picture of an Atlas E during the 1950’s time of active use, Kansas location.)

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Communications Bunker - Russell, KS

this site is cleaned up and ready for your creativity Communications Bunker site

 Russell, KS

Communications bunker with 8,800 sq. ft. of nuclear hardened underground floor-space.  13.1 acres m/l. 177 ft. tower with income potential.  Structure is clean and ready for immediate use with some new paint and tile work.   Creative financing possible with significant down payment.  

Price Reduced!  ($750,000.)  now $550,000.

Click here to order a video tour of this site.  

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Communications Vault - Paris, MO

Paris, MO Communications Vault

Paris, Missouri  

Hardened Underground Communications Vault on 13 acres (more or less), built in the 1960’s as a nuclear war-proof communications center, 8,200 sq. ft. usable floor space.  Good neighbors.  Near Mark Twain recreational lake. Excellent for underground home or secure document storage facility. 

Price: firm at $295,000. for cash sale

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Titan 1 site - outside of Denver, CO

Titan 1 Missile Site, Denver Titan 1 site

 Denver, CO (20 minutes outside of city)

210 total acres. Very rare piece of history – only 18 built. Massive 45,000 + sq. ft. of underground floor-space. Many unique possibilities for commercial or private usage. Serious and capable buyers only. 

Price: $2,800,000.

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Atlas F site - Lewis, NY

partnership Partnership/Investment Opportunity
Atlas F site

Lewis, NY (Adirondack Park)

This Atlas F site in the Adirondack Park is already under development by Australian owner, seeking free-spirited, compatible partner/investor for further development into a unique (M.A.S.H. theme) entertainment venue suitable for dance parties and other profitable commercial uses. Detailed development plans with cost and profit analysis are available for examination.

Seeking investment for 50% ownership rights

Do Not Give Up, Do Not Give In; Give back!

By Daniel J Leach

Anti New World Order Party
Freedom and Liberty

We are beginning to see the great Silent Majority begin to awaken to the Global Agenda of the New World Order! From the Tea Party to the Occupy Movement the seeds of Liberty are beginning to take root and grow a great Liberty Tree. “In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot” (Mark Twain).

As a Truth Seeker, Patriot and Political activist in this modern-day internet social networking arena, I find myself relating to the greatest of Patriots and Freedom fighters the world has ever known! Our world’s history is full of people who stood up for the Truth: “If you are a minority of one, the truth is the truth” (Gandhi), and were rejected for going against society’s norms or so-called “truths” of that time in which they lived!  Even the Lord Jesus Christ, God of the Universe, was rejected by his own! “And they were offended in Him. But Jesus said unto them, “A prophet is not without honor, save in his own country, and in his own house” (Jesus Christ, http://bible.cc/matthew/13-57.htm).

The Battle that we fight for as Truth-Tellers or Patriots is for the Minds and Hearts of Men, for the masses, for those who are blinded by the lies, “The function of a civil resistance is to provoke response, and we will continue to provoke until they respond or change the law. They are not in control; we are” (Gandhi). “And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him” (Bible). Truth cannot be won with a sword or by a bomb,  But with the Education and Knowledge comes Freedom and Liberty! There are those who will curse you and call you all kinds of names because you want to speak the Truth! “In a time of universal deceit telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act” (George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four, italics added).

They the uninformed masses of people ignorant and starving for the truth will call you Crazy or a Conspiracy Theorist, not really understanding that they themselves are truly under Mind Control or NLP (Nero Linguistic Programming). They will defend the lies even unto death, slaves to the lie suffering from a form of Mass-Stockholm syndrome The Syndrome has also been explained in evolutionary terms by a phenomenon sometimes referred to as Capture-bonding.

“For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places” (King James Bible).

Even Einstein was called Crazy “Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance. (Albert Einstein). “First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win” (Mahatma Gandhi). “Whenever I despair, I remember that the way of truth and love has always won. There may be tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they may seem invincible, but in the end, they always fail. Think of it: always.” (Gandhi).

I find it encouraging that others have come before me to lay the seeds of Truth that enable Justice, Liberty and Freedom for all! “We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness” (Thomas Jefferson).

I am reminded of a quote from  the speech “Citizenship in a Republic” Theodore Roosevelt delivered at the Sorbonne, in Paris, France on 23 April, 1910 called,

THE MAN IN THE ARENA

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.

Download PDF of complete speech

As I learn more about the great men in our world’s history who stood against injustice and for the Truth and Justice for all men great and small, rich and poor! I find a inner strength to face those who would carry out such atrocities and to be bold even unto death!

Absolutely know the the Truth about the Shroud of Turin

By:Daniel J Leach

Many claim that The Shroud of Turin is Jesus Christ but the  Knights Templar claim that this is Jacques de Molay.  I myself would like to think that this is Jesus Christ but with my research and understanding of history tend to lead me to believe that this is indeed Jacques de Molay and not Jesus Christ.

Geoffroi de Charny (the French Knight who died at the 1356 battle of Poitiers) and his wife Jeanne de Vergy are the first reliably recorded owners of the Turin Shroud. This Geoffroi participated in a failed crusade under Humbert II of Viennois in the late 1340s.[26] He is sometimes confused with Templar Geoffroi de Charney.[27]

This Section Copied from: http://blog.templarhistory.com/2010/03/the-templars-and-the-shroud-of-turin/

Any discussion of the Shroud of Turin is bound to be controversial. Those who view this sacred and holy relic fall into two camps, those that believe it to be the undisputed earthly evidence of a Christ risen and those who believe it to be a medieval forgery.

It is not the intention of this web site to cast doubt on or support the authenticity of the shroud, but rather to show its possible relationship to the Knights Templar. We receive many letters from angry people who wish to enter into lengthy debates about carbon 14 reliability. We are aware of new evidence that puts the reliability of carbon 14 dating in question, so please refrain from telling us of the findings or directing us to URLs that make the claims.

There are two theories that relate to the Templars having been involved with the Shroud, one, which would support the authenticity of the Shroud and another, which would refute it.

In 1204 the Crusaders sacked the city of Constantinople. Among them were the Knights Templar, whom some scholars contend took the Burial shroud of Jesus from the city. To support this theory, author Ian Wilson who wrote the book “The Shroud of Turin: Burial Cloth Of Jesus?” makes the claim that the head that the Templars were accused of worshipping was none other than that of Jesus. His belief is that the Shroud when folded depicted the head of Christ and was referred to as the “Mandylion.” There is a painted panel at Templecombe in England that shows a bearded head like that, which is depicted on the Mandylion.

In their two books, “The Hiram Key” and “The Second Messiah,” authors Christopher Knight and Robert Lomas paint a contrasting picture to the Mandylion theory. The authors theorize that the image on the Shroud of Turin is in fact that of the last Grand Master of the order, Jacques de Molay, who was tortured some months before his execution in 1307. The image on the shroud certainly does fit the description of de Molay as depicted in medieval wood cuts, a long nose, hair shoulder length and parted in the center, a full beard that forked at its base, not to mention the six-foot frame. De Molay was said to be quite tall.

However, many have criticized the theory on the basis that the Templar rule of order forbade the Templars from growing their hair long. What critics of the theory overlook is that during DeMolay’s seven years in prison it is highly unlikely that he would have been afforded such luxuries as good grooming.

Knight and Lomas claim that the shroud figured in the Templars rituals of figurative resurrection and that DeMolay’s tortured body was wrapped in a shroud, which the Templars kept after his death. Lomas and Knight further believe that lactic acid and blood from DeMolay’s tortured body mixed with frankincense (used to whiten the cloth) etching his image into the shroud.

When the shroud was first put on display in 1357 (50 years after the disbanding of the order) by the family of Geoffrey de Charney who was also burned at the stake with de Molay, the first people viewing the shroud recognized the image to be that of Christ.

The authors theorize that Jacques de Molay may have been tortured in a manner similar to Christ as a mockery. Certainly then, the wounds suffered by de Molay where the same as those of Jesus Christ on the Cross.

Today it is commonly believed by many, through carbon dating, that the shroud dates to the late 13th century and not to the date of Christ’s supposed crucifixion. It is interesting that the church revealed these carbon dating results on October 13th, 1989, which is the same day the Templars were arrested by Church and State. According to the authors:

“Carbon dating has conclusively shown that the Shroud of Turin dates from between 1260 and 1380, precisely as we would expect if it were the image of Jacques de Molay. There is no other known theory that fits the scientifically established facts. Through experimentation, we know that the figure on the Shroud was on a soft bed of some kind, which strongly suggests that the victim was not dead and was expected to recover.”

The Second Messiah pg. 161 – Christopher Knight and Robert Lomas

Regardless of whether the findings of Ian Wilson or Knight and Lomas are correct, it is evident that this most holy and venerated relic has found its way into the Templar mythos.

Lynn Picknet and Clive Prince, authors of “Turin Shroud: In Whose Image?” present another theory of interest on the matter. Readers will recognize the authors from the book, “The Templar Revelation.” In the authors’ earlier book the duo claim that Leonardo Da Vinci who created an early photographic technique manufactured the image on the shroud of Turin.

Stephanie Pappas
Live Science
Thu, 05 Apr 2012 17:01 CDT
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Full-length negative photograph of the Shroud of Turin.

A hoax or a miracle? The Shroud of Turin has inspired this question for centuries. Now, an art historian says this piece of cloth, said to bear the imprint of the crucified body of Jesus Christ, may be something in between.

According to Thomas de Wesselow, formerly of Cambridge University, the controversial shroud is no medieval forgery, as a 1989 attempt at radiocarbon dating suggests. Nor is the strange outline of the body on the fabric a miracle, de Wesselow writes in his new book, The Sign: The Shroud of Turin and the Secret of the Resurrection (Dutton Adult, 2012). Instead, de Wesselow suggests, the shroud was created by natural chemical processes – and then interpreted by Jesus’ followers as a sign of his resurrection.

“People in the past did not view images as just the mundane things that we see them as today. They were potentially alive. They were seen as sources of power,” de Wesselow told LiveScience. The image of Jesus found on the shroud would have been seen as a “living double,” he said. “It seemed like they had a living double after his death and therefore it was seen as Jesus resurrected.”

Believing the shroud

As de Wesselow is quick to admit, this idea is only a hypothesis. No one has tested whether a decomposing body could leave an imprint on shroud-style cloth like the one seen on the shroud. A 2003 paper published in the journal Melanoidins in Food and Health, however, posited that chemicals from the body could react with carbohydrates on the cloth, resulting in a browning reaction similar to the one seen on baked bread. (De Wesselow said he knows of no plans to conduct an experiment to discover if this idea really works.)

Perhaps more problematic is the authenticity of the shroud itself. Radiocarbon dating conducted in 1988 estimated the shroud to medieval times, between approximately A.D. 1260 and 1390. This is also the same time period when records of the shroud begin to appear, suggesting a forgery.

Critics have charged that the researchers who dated the shroud accidentally chose asample of fabric added to the shroud during repairs in the medieval era, skewing the results. That controversy still rages, but de Wesselow is convinced of the shroud’s authenticity from an art history approach.

“It’s nothing like any other medieval work of art,” de Wesselow said. “There’s just nothing like it.”

Among the anachronisms, de Wesselow said, is the realistic nature of the body outline. No one was painting that realistically in the 14th century, he said. Similarly, the body image is in negative (light areas are dark and vice versa), a style not seen until the advent of photography centuries later, he said.

“From an art historian’s point of view, it’s completely inexplicable as a work of art of this period,” de Wesselow said.

Resurrection: spiritual or physical?

If de Wesselow’s belief in the shroud’s legitimacy is likely to rub skeptics the wrong way, his mundane explanation of how the image of Jesus came to be is likely to ruffle religious feathers. According to de Wesselow, there’s no need to invoke a miracle when simple chemistry could explain the imprint. It’s likely, he says, that Jesus’ female followers returned to his tomb to finish anointing his body for burial three days after his death. When they lifted the shroud to complete their work, they would have seen the outline of the body and interpreted it as a sign of Jesus’ spiritual revival.

From there, de Wesselow suspects, the shroud went on tour around the Holy Land, providing physical proof of the resurrection to Jesus’ followers. When the Bible talks about people meeting Jesus post-resurrection, de Wesselow said, what it really means is that they saw the shroud. He cites the early writings of Saint Paul, which focus on a spiritual resurrection, over the gospels of Mark, Matthew, Luke and John, which were written later and invoke physical resurrection.

“The original conception of the resurrection was that Jesus was resurrected in a spiritual body, not in his physical body,” de Wesselow said.

These ideas are already receiving pushback, though de Wesselow says he’s yet to get responses from people who have read his entire book. Noted skeptic Joe Nickell toldMSNBC’s Alan Boyle that de Wesselow’s ideas were “breathtakingly astonishing,” and not in a good way; Nickell has argued on multiple occasions that the shroud’s spotty historical record and too-perfect image strongly suggest a counterfeit.

On the other end of the religious spectrum, former high-school teacher and Catholic religious speaker David Roemer believes in Jesus’ resurrection, but not the shroud’s authenticity. The image is too clear and the markings said to be blood aren’t smeared as they would be if the cloth had covered a corpse, Roemer told LiveScience.

“When you get an image this detailed, it means it was done by some kind of a human being,” Roemer said.

Unlike many “shroudies,” as believers are deprecatingly called, Roemer suspects the shroud was deliberately created by Gnostic sects in the first or second century. A common religious explanation for the markings is that a flash of energy or radiation accompanied Christ’s resurrection, “burning” his image onto the cloth.

If anything is certain about de Wesselow’s hypothesis, it’s that it is not likely to settle the shroud controversy. Scientific examinations of the delicate cloth are few and far between – and so are disinterested parties. Roemer, for example, recently arrived at a scheduled talk at a Catholic church in New York only to find the talk had been canceled when the priest learned of Roemer’s shroud skepticism. (The Catholic Church has no official position on the shroud’s authenticity.)

Meanwhile, de Wesselow said, people who aren’t driven by faith to accept the cloth as real generally don’t care about the shroud at all.

“The intellectual establishment, if you like, is not interested in shroud science,” he said. “It regards it as fringe and it’s not interested.”

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