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Karen Hudes Warns the World On the brink of a Currency War and at the edge of World War 3
Karen Hudes
Biography:
Karen Hudes studied law at Yale Law School and economics at the University of Amsterdam. She worked in the US Export Import Bank of the US from 1980-1985 and in the Legal Department of the World Bank from 1986-2007. She established the Non Governmental Organization Committee of the International Law Section of the American Bar Association and the Committee on Multilateralism and the Accountability of International Organizations of the American Branch of the International Law Association.
In 2007 Karen warned the US Treasury Department and US Congress that the US would lose its right to appoint the President of the World Bank if the current American President of the World Bank did not play by the rules. The 66 year old Gentlemen’s Agreement that Europe would appoint the Managing Director of the IMF and US would appoint the World Bank President ended in 2010.
Bank Corruption
| Date: | 05-25-13 |
| Host: | John B. Wells |
| Guests: | Karen Hudes |
Joining John B. Wells, former World Bank attorney and whistleblower Karen Hudestalked about how she uncovered corruption in the World Bank.
Who is Karen Hudes?
Karen Hudes studied law at Yale Law School and economics at the University of Amsterdam. She worked in the US Export Import Bank of the US from 1980-1985 and in the Legal Department of the World Bank from 1986-2007. She established the Non Governmental Organization Committee of the International Law Section of the American Bar Association and the Committee on Multilateralism and the Accountability of International Organizations of the American Branch of the International Law Association.
What did Karen Hudes blow the whistle on?
In 2007 Karen warned the US Treasury Department and US Congress that the US would lose its right to appoint the President of the World Bank if the current American President of the World Bank did not play by the rules. The 66 year old Gentlemen’s Agreement that Europe would appoint the Managing Director of the IMF and US would appoint the World Bank President ended in 2010http://www.imf.org/external/np/cm/2010/042510.htm
In 1999 Karen reported the corrupt take-over of the second largest bank in the Philippines. Lucio Tan, a crony of Joseph Estrada, then President of the Philippines, acquired stock owned by government employees in Philippines National Bank (“PNB”) valued more than 10% of PNB’s outstanding capital without disclosure, as required by Philippines securities laws. Tan owned Philippines Airlines, in default on its loans from PNB. The government of the Philippines loaned $493 million to PNB after PNB’s depositors made heavy withdrawals. $200 million of a loan from the World Bank and a $200 million loan from Japan were cancelled. Estrada was ultimately impeached, and in 2007 an anti-corruption court in the Philippines required Estrada to refund graft he had plundered. The Bank’s Country Director in the Philippines reassigned Karen when she asked him to sign a letter warning the Philippines’ government that the Bank could not disburse its loan without a waiver from the Board of Executive Directors since the loan conditionality was not met. The World Bank’s Internal Audit Department refused to correct the satisfactory evaluation of the Bank’s supervision performance or the flawed report of the Institutional Integrity Department to the Audit Committee of the Board of Executive Directors. When the Audit Committee requested an audit of internal controls over financial reporting, KPMG, the external auditors, circumscribed the scope of their audit in violation of Generally Accepted Accounting Principles and Generally Accepted Auditing Standards.
Two days after informing the Board’s Audit Committee of the cover-up in the Philippines, Karen was reprimanded and placed on probation. The Dutch Ministry of Foreign Affairs requested the World Bank’s Audit Committee to look into the cover- up. Instead, the Chair of the World Bank’s Audit Committee requested an inquiry into the World Bank’s Institutional Integrity Department. The Senate Committee on Foreign Relations followed up with three letters to the World Bank. The World Bank forged documents and fired Karen in contempt of Congress. The World Bank also fired the Staff Association’s lawyer. The Staff Association stated that what had happened to Karen had damaged staff morale and prevented others from reporting misconduct. The World Bank’s Ethics’ Officer left in frustration after her request for an investigation by the World Bank’s Institutional Integrity Department was turned down.
Mr. Paul Volcker headed the 2007 inquiry into the Institutional Integrity Department. The Volcker Panel was discredited after sixteen staff employed in the Institutional Integrity Department received significant damage awards in compensation for abuses of authority to intimidate them during the Volker Panel investigation. A staff-member of the EU’s anti-fraud agency, Office Lutte Anti-Fraude, on the Volcker Panel wrote to Karen:
“My Director General and I met with a number of European Executive Directors of the World Bank a few weeks ago to discuss the Volcker Panel report. At the meeting there was also discussion about governance issues. My impression was that the European Executive Directors are well apprised of all relevant issues at the Bank and no further comment by OLAF is warranted even if it was within our legal competence.”
Karen informed Senator Bayh, “[t]he ongoing cover-up is an indictment of the probity of US oversight at the Bank and I would encourage the Senate to request GAO to look into it.” Senators Richard Lugar, Evan Bayh and Patrick Leahy requested GAO to investigate “internal resistance to increased transparency and accountability at the World Bank.” http://citizenoversight.com/pdf/blwb.pdf In 2008 Karen’s Congressman, Representative Chris Van Hollen, noted “that [Karen’s] claims and concerns have already been provided to the GAO…. and to the relevant congressional committees.” In 2009 GAO stated that it could not commence the inquiry “because of challenges we recently faced in gaining access to World Bank officials.” Senator Lugar asked what was delaying the GAO review during hearings on the World Bank’s capital increase.
Mr. Pieter Stek, then Executive Director for the Netherlands, and Chair of the Board Committee on Development Effectiveness, said:
“In a multilateral institution which should be governed by the rule of law and high standards of probity the charge of concealment from the Board of Executive Directors of information relevant to the exercise of its duty of supervising management and the persecution of the person who brings this to light is extremely serious. If correct, which I believe, this poisonous cocktail undermines good governance and ultimately the effectiveness of the Bank in fulfilling its mandate. I shall continue to assist Ms. Hudes in her efforts to have due process brought to bear, preferably by the Bank itself, on these issues of governance.”
David Brooks wrote:
“Then there are violations, when someone intentionally breaks the rules. Errors can be very hard for outsiders to detect. It was people inside the companies who were most likely to report fraud, because they have local knowledge. And yet 80 percent of these whistleblowers regret having reported the crimes because of the negative consequences they suffered. This is not the way to treat people who detect error.” http://brooks.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/06/13/living-with-mistakes/?comments#permid=34

United States Court of Appeals
FOR THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA CIRCUIT
- KAREN HUDES,
- Appellant,
- v.
- AETNA LIFE INSURANCE COMPANY,
- INTERNATIONAL BANK FOR
- RECONSTRUCTION AND
- DEVELOPMENT,
- KPMG LLP,
- AND
- MARK E. SCHREIBER,
- Appellees
GENERAL DOCKET FOR CASE #: 11-7109
| 11/14/2011 | View Details | Motion filed by International Bank for Reconstruction and Development for summary affirmance. |
| 12/02/2011 | View Details Exhibits |
Response in Opposition filed by Karen Hudes |
| 12/12/2011 | View Details | Reply filed by International Bank for Reconstruction and Development to response |
| 3/8/2012 | View Details | Per Curiam Order filed denying motion for summary affirmance |
| 3/9/2012 | View Details | Clerk’s Order filed directing party to file briefing format |
| 4/23/2012 | View Details | Motion filed by Karen Hudes to extend time to file response to court order. |
| 5/2/2012 | View Details | Motion filed by Karen Hudes to extend time to file response |
| 7/9/2012 | View Details | Court’s 6/15/2012 offer of mediation turned down by IBRD, KPMG, Aetna and Schreiber. |
| 8/06/2012 | View Details Exhibits |
Karen Hudes’ Opening Brief |
| 9/05/2012 | View Details | Brief filed by International Bank for Reconstruction and Development |
| 9/05/2012 | View Details | Brief filed by KPMG |
| 9/05/2012 | View Details | Brief filed by Aetna |
| 9/05/2012 | View Details | Brief filed by Schreiber |
| 7/9/2012 | View Details | Court’s Order Scheduling Oral Argument for November 6, 2012 |
| 9/19/2012 | View Details | Karen Hudes’ Reply Brief |
| 11/2/2012 | View Details | Court Order Cancelling Oral Arguments |
| 11/20/2012 | View Details | Unpublished Opinion Affirming District Court |
| 1/19/2012 | View Details | Request to Judicial Conference to correct court records |
IN THE US DISTRICT COURT
DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA
- Karen Hudes
- 5203 Falmouth Road
- Bethesda, MD 20816,
- Plaintiff,
- vs.
- Aetna Life Insurance Company
- 151 Farmington Avenue
- Hartford, CT 06156,
- Mark E. Schreiber
- Edwards Angell Palmer & Dodge
- 111 Huntington Avenue
- Boston, MA 02199-7613,
- International Bank for Recon-
- struction and Development,
- 1818 H Street, N.W.
- Washington, DC 20433,
- KPMG LLP,
- c/o The Corporation Trust Company
- 1209 Orange Street
- Wilmington, DE 19801,
- and
- John and Jane Does 1-99,
- Defendants.
CIVIL DOCKET FOR CASE #: 1:10-cv-01444-JEB
| 04/13/2010 | View Details Exhibits |
RESPONSE to Motion re 15 MOTION to Dismiss for Lack of Jurisdiction filed by Karen Hudes. Replies due by 04/30/2010. (elts, Deputy Clerk) [Transferred from Maryland on 8/26/2010.] (Entered: 04/30/2010) |
| 10/15/2010 | View Details | AMENDED COMPLAINT against AETNA LIFE INSURANCE CO., INTERNATIONAL BANK FOR RECONSTRUCTION AND DEVELOPMENT, MARK E. SCHREIBER, KPMG LLP filed by KAREN HUDES.(rdj) (Entered: 10/19/2010) |
| 01/17/2011 | View Details | Memorandum in opposition to re 58 MOTION to Dismiss and Sever MOTION to Sever MOTION for Hearing, 57 MOTION to Dismiss Second Amended Complaint, 59 MOTION to DismissPlaintiffs Second Amended Complaint, 54 MOTION to Dismiss Plaintiff’s Second Amended Complaint filed by KAREN HUDES. (Attachments: # 1 Memorandum in Support, # 2 Exhibit)(Hudes, Karen) (Entered: 01/17/2011) |
| 08/30/2011 | View Details | ORDER granting 54 Aetna Life Ins. Co.’s Motion to Dismiss; granting 57 Mark Schreiber’s Motion to Dismiss; granting 58 KPMG’s Motion to Dismiss; granting 59 IBRD’s Motion to Dismiss. The Court ORDERS that: (1) Defendants’ Motions to Dismiss are GRANTED WITH PREJUDICE as to all federal claims against all Defendants, and as to Plaintiff’s wrongful-termination claim against the World Bank; and (2) Defendants’ Motions to Dismiss are GRANTED WITHOUT PREJUDICE as to all other Maryland and state common-law claims. Signed by Judge James E. Boasberg on 8/30/2011. (lcjeb1) (Entered: 08/30/2011) Hudes v. Aetna Life Ins. Co., et al, 806 F. Supp 2d 180 |
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“Peter Joseph, Zeitgeist, and the Venus Project – A Refutation” The All Seeing Eye is their symbol the Illuminati

Nicholas Péti
Okay Daniel … What I have done here is simply copy the entire conversation. Since I do not have the permission from the other person to use his name, you can just leave out his part of the conversation, or replace his name with “Anonymous person.” His statements do provide the “backdrop” for my responses though. … Of course you do not have to use this as a whole article, you can break it up if you want to.
Subject:
Nicholas Péti …
Ohhhhhhhhhh, well be careful where he is concerned … His info is mixed with Illuminati bullshit !! He is a clever manipulator,
who wants to lead you into his new world view, “the Venus Project” … It is a reworded version of the Illuminati’s “New World Order & Agenda 21”
Anonymous Person …
Peter Joseph doesn’t believe in the illumimati.
Sorry, I was watching the show, Friends!
Nicholas Péti …
Hey Anonymous Person
I know he doesn’t believe in the Illuminati .. and that in and of itself should definitely tell you something. No Illuminati plant/agent would ever say they believe that the Illuminati exists. They will lure you in by letting you think they are either against them or as Peter Joseph does. But all the while they are using Illuminati methods in everything they are presenting, and presenting Illuminati programs disguised as something else.
If you take a look at the Zeitgeist Movement you will run across certain keywords used throughout it, such as: Sustainability, Global Entity, Resource Based Economy, Local Chapters, Renewable Energy, etc..
They also speak of the removal of the nation-state and replacing it with a global entity, doing away with cultural traditions, replacing faith with science, replacing individual thinking with group thinking, and eliminating concepts such as self and family by replacing them with the group as a whole. ALL of this is Illuminati, One World Government; rule by a Select Elite Group of people, the Illuminati.
ALL of that is Illuminati to the core !!! They are deceiving people using the very same techniques the Illuminati have always used, DECEIT !!! …. Sustainability = Agenda 21, Global Entity = One World Government, Resource Based Economy = Agenda 21, Local Chapters = ICLEI = Agenda 21, Renewable Energy = Agenda 21 ….. Agenda 21 and a One World Government = the Illuminati !!!
PLEASE stay away from Zeitgeist and Peter Joseph, they are leading you down the wrong path.
Anonymous Person …
We don’t believe in politics or government, and defiantly not religion, if you read up on the Venus project you’ll understand!
Nicholas Péti …
I know of the Venus Project, and the things you mention that you (the group/Zeitgeist) do not believe in … You are being deceived my friend, I promise you this on my very life.
Anonymous Person …
I like the idea of a resource base economy
Nicholas Péti …
You might like that, and if it was carried out correctly for ALL mankind, this would be a good thing.
7:12am
Nicholas Péti
But you see, these resources are owned by people of great wealth, and these people are all Illuminati; they do not care about mankind. They believe that all the resources belong to them and only them. They refer to us as “Eaters” because we eat up THEIR resources. And when they speak of a resource based economy, we are not included in this economy. We are to be removed from the earth, as it is their plan to “Maintain a population of 500,000,000 people living in harmony with the environment”
Sunday
4:40pm
Anonymous Person
A resource base economy doesn’t want a monetary system, everybody is equal!
5:30pm
Nicholas Péti
Really Anonymous Person … it does not matter what a resource economy wants, it is what those in power want. And these people will never give up their power or allow themselves to be considered equal with anyone who is not within their group, and that group is the Illuminati.
These people firmly believe that they and they alone have the right to rule the world, and decide the fate of it and of us. Their goals include returning to a feudal system like that in place during the middle ages ….
I will write more, but need to reply to another PM that is extremely important ….
6:31pm
Anonymous Person
That’s why we need to end the federal banks!
7:25pm
Nicholas Péti
Oh don’t worry, the federal reserve here and the central banks of most other countries will go away in a sense as an entirely new system of money is to replace what we use now. The US Dollar will soon be collapsing, and when it does, it will bring down all other monies in the world.
What is planned is electronic money, which is very much the same as that when using a credit or debit card. Only this system will not use cards, it will use a microchip implanted in you. So say you go to a store and buy something, the item/s will be scanned as they are now and a total amount reached, then you will be scanned and the money for your purchase will be deducted from your account and sent to the store, all electronically !!!
Sunday
10:45pm
Nicholas Péti
This system was created under the orders of the Rothschild family, with the assistance of the other international banking houses which are all owned by various families all related by marriage to the Rothschild’s, or by them through various illegitimate male sons and their descendants then reinforced by marriage into the main branch of the family.
It is made possible by two things, microchip technology and the barcode. Of course you are aware of the barcode as it is on every product in the world. What you may not be aware of is that it was created by IBM, a Rothschild owned company, and thus they actually own the barcode itself. Their name is on every barcode in existence as mark of ownership, not written but numerically.
Anyway, this implantable microchip will have it’s own barcode on it, and although you will be known to other people by your name just as now, to whatever form of government, this new monetary system, etc., you will be identified as the number that is on that barcode on your microchip. In essence you will become a walking barcode, and the number on that barcode is you. Since the Rothschild’s own the barcode, and you will be identified as a barcode, you will become property of the Rothschild’s.
Ingenious, devious, twisted, and even rather psychotic yes ?? .. Well welcome to the world of the Illuminati !!!
10:54pm
Nicholas Péti
Now how does all of this info play into a resource based economy ?? Well in a two fold way really. In order for resources to be of value, they must be developed. Developed includes extraction from the earth to finished product, and /or developed by other means. A good share of the developing process will be done by robots, however human labor will also be required. Since humans are required, they are also considered to be a resource.
10:55pm
Nicholas Péti
Since you will earn money, albeit electronically, the money itself will also be a resource.
And since the resources are owned by the Illuminati, and you are one of the resources, you will be nothing more than property of the Illuminati. Think SLAVE !!!
11:03pm
Nicholas Péti
Now you might say that this is not what the Venus Project and Zeitgeist speaks of, but remember this ….. If they told you what I have told you, would you buy into it and think it a wonderful thing ??
NO, they want you to believe in what they are selling in so many words, and they want you to sell this to other people so these other people will believe in it too, and help to accomplish it. The Venus Project and you are the wrapping on a box full of evil, only you do not know what that box contains.
Evil does not sell itself as evil, it sells itself a good !!!
11:03pm
Nicholas Péti
*as good*
11:17pm
Nicholas Péti
Okay, for now I have finished. I can speak on the other aspects of all of this at a later time. But do keep in mind that a system where all are equal will never exist as long as these elite people, the Illuminati exist. They will NEVER give up their power and control, and they will never allow themselves to be equal with the rest of mankind, for mankind itself is a disease to them which needs to be eliminated from their vision of a perfect earth. We are considered to be an entirely different species, and they do not consider themselves one of us. They consider themselves to be gods !!
Also remember that a system where all people are considered to be equal has never truly existed, and when it has (although imperfectly), it has been known as communism/socialism.
“The All Seeing Eye is their symbol, as seen in the four examples below. Many different versions/styles of this eye are used by various organizations and companies world wide, and denote ownership/control by the Illuminati.
The All Seeing Eye is also the symbol for Lucifer and the Anti-Christ/False Messiah/Dajjal … (Christian/Jewish/Islamic name accordingly)
On “The Great Seal” (the Seal of the Illuminati) which appears on the US Dollar, you see an unfinished pyramid with the All Seeing Eye floating above it. You also see the words “Annuit Coeptis” (Upon Completion) and “Novus Ordo Seclorum” (New Secular Order) … The year given in Roman Numerals is the year in which the Illuminati (as an organization) was founded, and the unfinished Pyramid has 13 levels or steps.
Annuit Coeptis Novus Ordo Ssclorum = Upon completion of the New Secular Order … this is when the All Seeing Eye will then join with the unfinished pyramid below, thus finishing it. The New Secular Order is the same as the New World Order/One World Government & Religion.
The Illuminati serve Lucifer, that is why they use the All Seeing Eye as their symbol as it denotes Lucifer (and the Anti-Christ/False Messiah/Dajjal) …
The New Secular Order/New World Order/One World Government & Religion will have a leader (President, Emperor, whatever) …
That leader has not yet appeared and taken his rightful place.
Because the new Government of the World has not yet been fully set up.
The Illuminati pray and offer Human sacrifices to Lucifer so he will bring forth this World Leader.
The person whose arrival they pray for (the World Leader) is none other than the Anti-Christ/False Messiah/Dajjal.
The joining of the All Seeing Eye with the Unfinsihed Pyramid finishes the Pyramid = The World Leader assuming control of the One World Government & Religion.
And thus the Earth itself, and all who live upon it .”
(I included the following examples of the All Seeing Eye)
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Will The Real Knights Templar Please Stand Up

FOR $1,000,000: SPOT THE FAKE OR DISSOLVED ORGANIZATION
Order/Knights of Malta
Knights Templar
Papal Knights
Knights of Columbus
Knights of the Holy Sepulchre
Swiss Guard
Jesuits
Legion of Christ
Opus Dei
Illuminati
Freemasons
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Jonathan Gillenson I’m pretty sure the Knights Templar were disolved (at least to the best of my knowledge). I don’t know of a group called the Papal Knights ever existing but I may have to dive deeper into Church history. To my knowledge there was a group called the Illuminati, but Dan Brown exaggerates their involvement and unless I’m mistaken they have completely dissolved themselves.
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John McGuire The Papal Knights are a matter of mainstream news and public record.
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Jonathan Daniel Bennett Templars were dissolved eight centuries ago; “Papal Knights” could refer to a number of chivalric orders; Weishaupt’s Illuminati was largely destroyed by the Bavarian government in the late 1700s, although many conspiracy theories involve their continuation in various ways and in various places.
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John McGuire Ten years before the Jesuits, Ignatius of Loyola founded the ALUMBRADOS, i.e. Enlightened Ones or Illuminati in Spain. The group mysteriously disbanded before the Jesuits were founded.
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Jonathan Daniel Bennett Ok. Where’s my million dollars?
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Daniel J Leach Nope the Nights Knigh Templar are still an active grouphttp://www.knightstemplar.org/
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John McGuire No dice, Ionatan.
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Jonathan Daniel Bennett There are dozens of groups calling themselves Templars, but the actual Order of the Poor Fellow-Soldiers of Christ and of the Temple of Solomon, founded in in the early 12th century were officially dissolved by papal decree in 1312.
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John McGuire Disavowed not dissolved.
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Duc de Berwick Knights Templar were dissolved, the Knights of St. John had a schism sometime during Napoleon so they could be fake.
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John McGuire This site claims Templars alive and well: papalknights.org
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John McGuire This site claims Templars alive and well: papalknights.org/
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Daniel J Leach http://papalknights.org
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John McGuire This site claims Templars alive and well: http://papalknights.org/
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Jonathan Daniel Bennett It was papal decree which brought them into being, it was papalauthority underwhich the Order operated, and it was the pope who suppressed and dissolved. Whatever members of the Knights Templar survived and defied the ban by continuing to function, and whatever modern groups refer to themselves as Templars, the original Order no longer exists.
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Jonathan Daniel Bennett As I said, there are dozens of groups (some even within the Church) which tap the Templar legacy, but the Order itself no longer exists.
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John McGuire A papal decree brought them under the pope, papal authority disowned them. No cigar.
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John McGuire No longer exists as a papist entity. WE GET IT.
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John McGuire No longer exists as a papist entity. WE GET IT. STOP SPAMMING.
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Jonathan Daniel Bennett You do not understand how Catholic religious orders function then.
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Duc de Berwick No you are wrong John. The Templars were duty bound and could report only to the Pope, hence many feudal lords in the Levant used to get very angry with the knights for they could not question them or make them show cause when asked upon.
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John McGuire Actually I do. Organizations that fall out of the pope’s favor do not magically disappear except in papo-fairyland of course.
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Duc de Berwick Thus the earlier point stands that the Pope gave them their existence and even took away their role to exist.
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Jonathan Daniel Bennett I’m pointing out some basic historical facts in response to a rather odd topic post. I’m not spamming. Really John, I like a lot of what you post, but I’m not sure where you are trying to go with this.
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John McGuire Organizations that fall out of the pope’s favor do not magically disappear except in papo-fairyland of course.
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Daniel J Leach This is a good conversation very informative! Where or not they are still who they were doesn’t matter it is only one NWO organization out of thousands that or in the same league of secret society’s that want to build a New World Order Government and none of the work they do is of any good to humanity.
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John McGuire I’ll go wherever solid fact takes me.
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John McGuire “Role to exist”? That’s not even cogent.
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Duc de Berwick Though the Knights of St. John is a murky issue, I am very confident that the templars do not exist anymore after they were suspended by the Pope in connivance with Philip IV of France.
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Jonathan Daniel Bennett The Order as an organization did indeed cease to exist. Whatever organizations and institutions came out of it, or were based upon it, are a completely different matter and open to much speculation, but the Knights Templar, being under papal authority, were validly dissolved by that same authority.
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Duc de Berwick Exactly
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John McGuire Did the pope found the Knights Templar? I don’t think so.
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Daniel J Leach I have no idea but the same groups still are trying to rule the world!
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Duc de Berwick But he passed a decree for it’s creation.
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John McGuire Sorry, but you need to realize my reading of history doesn’t rely on the Roman Patriarch as some kind of supreme dictator of all reality. And that’s why you sound like a clashing gong to my ears.
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Daniel J Leach Its poinless to say if they are the same group or not the next group still has the same goal as the first!
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John McGuire The Nicaean Church fell out of favor with the Emperor. Does that mean the Christian Church no longer exists?
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Daniel J Leach Good point John McGuire!
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Jonathan Daniel Bennett No, like most Catholic religious orders, the Knights Templar were not founded directly by the pope, but under local episcopal and noble authority before- having grown in numbers and prominence- brought themselves direct papal authority.
I realize you are not Catholic, but to recognize some how the history of the Templars and the role and functions of religious orders like the Templars works within the Church is completely separate from submitting to Roman obedience yourself. -
Jonathan Daniel Bennett The Emperor never issued a decree dissolving the entirety of the Church.
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Duc de Berwick Fine if the Order was not founded or created by the Pope, at least they were allied to the Pope. Does that suffice?
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John McGuire No, but he defined it as Arian.
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Jonathan Daniel Bennett And his successors reversed that.
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Jonathan Daniel Bennett As was their prerogative.
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John McGuire Alliances come and go but do not fully define an organization.
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John McGuire So, Jonathan, if a future pope reinstates the Knights Templar, then suddenly they will never have ceased to exist? You’re loyal, I’ll give you that much.
Related articles
- Pope recognizes Knights Templar – History.com This Day in History – 1/13/1128 (worldhistoryreview.org)
- The Knights Templar and money lending (thetemplarknight.com)
- Knights Templar Criminal Cartel 10 arrested (pikapvs.com)
- Vatican celebrates Knights of Malta’s 900 years (sacbee.com)
- Knights of Columbus Launch Prayer Campaign During Papal Transition (deaconjohnspace.wordpress.com)
- Knights of Columbus Launch Prayer Campaign During Papal Transition (sacbee.com)
- James A. Marples letter: Catholic Church needs a ‘modern’ leader in next pope (reporternews.com)
Anti New World Order Party and We Are Change Rochester Monthly Meetup for May 2012
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Sunday, May 20, 20122:00pm until 5:00pm
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(((Meet UP)))AntiNWOParty (((Meet-UP))) Broadcast Live for those who cant make it out but would still like to attend the Meetup. http://www.blogtv.com/People/AntiNWOPartyHow to find us: http://AntiNewWorldOrderParty.Wordpress.com/
Anti New World Order Party, Hope For Rochester Ministry, Campaign For Liberty and We Are Change Rochester along with the Rochester Tea Party organizations will be Networking
Illuminati – Christianity – Prophecy – Islam & The New World Order
All of these things have affected or are affecting life in America and her place in history. America was the greatest nation to ever rise on the face of the earth. It was no accident that America came to be, or the time period in which she did. We hope that this Meet-Up, and our Q&A panels will shed some light on these subjects, and help you to see America’s role in past, present and future history.
Admission is Free! Donations are welcome, but in no way requried.
Doors open at 2:30 PM, Meet-up starts at 3:15 PM. Come early and visit the tables of some of our sponsors as they share information about their ministries.
“Anti New World Order Party, in solidarity with the CampaignforLibertyToday.com and We Are Change Rochester want our leaders to be our servants. The “New World Order” is, by all the evidence, ruling our country in defiance of the United States Constitution!”
Mission: to recruit, educate and motivate American citizens at the grassroots level to perform their constitutionally definded role in the governance , by providing opportunities, knowledge and training to ensure limited constitutional governance.
Could 2012 NLE Cyber Attack DRILL be the Next 911 False Flag, Will This Years Drill Go Live?
By:Daniel J Leach
Reblogged: http://theintelhub.com
NLE 2012: Will This Years Drill Go Live and Result in a False Flag Cyber Attack?
The Intel Hub
By Shepard Ambellas and Alex Thomas
April 4, 2012
The summer of 2012 is fast approaching. As it inches closer, we will start to see a major increase in US and foreign troop movements as well as military equipment movements throughout the CONUS (Continental United States).
While many of the upcoming sightings may well be normal operations as the military does like to do training in the summer, the fact is that parts of our own military, along with foreign and UN troops, are actively planning to take on the American people.
National Level Exercise drills have been in effect for years now and have been covered by many alternative news sources, including The Intel Hub through our yearly Operation Overwatch which we use to gain intel and tips from the public in order to relay them to our readers.
Over the years many people have worried about the numerous National Level Preparedness drills and, in most cases, for good reason.
In 2011, the NLE focused around an earthquake on the New Madrid Fault Zone and the year before resulted in 70 thousand people being evacuated from a Texas city after a fertilizer fire.
Interestingly enough, this years FEMA national preparedness drill is focusing on the threat of a major cyber attack on America’s infrastructure.
The last year has seen dozens of cyber attacks on government websites as well as government propagandists pushing the fear of a cyber attack on the populace. Now we have the Department of Homeland Security making cyber security the main component of their annual preparedness drill.
Although only a small amount of information has been released on NLE2012, we can see from FEMA’s own website what it primary consists of.
FEMA’s website released the following PDF;
National Level Exercise (NLE) 2012Continental
- Major Exercises
- Opportunities for Participation in NLE 2012
- Learn More about Cyber Security
- Contact Information
National Level Exercise (NLE) 2012 is part of a series of congressionally mandated preparedness exercises designed to educate and prepare participants for potential catastrophic events.
The NLE 2012 process will examine the nation’s ability to coordinate and implement prevention, preparedness, response and recovery plans and capabilities pertaining to a significant cyber event or a series of events.
NLE 2012 will examine national response plans and procedures, including the National Response Framework (NRF), NRF Cyber Incident Annex, Interim National Cyber Incident Response Plan (NCIRP) and the International Strategy for Cyberspace.
Unique to NLE 2012 will be an emphasis on the shared responsibility among all levels of government, the private sector and the international community to secure cyberspace and respond together to a significant cyber incident.
Obsidian Analysis, the company heading up NLE12 for the private sector, states on their website:
NLE 2012 will comprise four major exercises, including a capstone event. These exercises will share common scenario elements, planning efforts and governance structure.
Participation in each exercise will be determined respectively, but the NLE 2012 process includes the Executive Office of the President; federal, state, local, tribal and territorial department and agency officials and emergency operations elements, nongovernmental and private sector organizations and international partners. These four major exercises include:
Information Exchange: This discussion-based exercise is designed to evaluate the sharing of cyber related information among the intelligence community, law enforcement, federal, state, tribal and local governments, the private sector and international partners, as appropriate
Cyber Incident Management/Virtual Effects: This exercise will examine the coordination and communication processes between public and private stakeholders in response to a significant cyber incident. This will include examining challenges related to managing a cyber event with national security implications.
NLE Capstone/Cyber Physical Effects: This functional exercise will examine challenges related to managing a cyber event with physical consequences and national security implications. This will include addressing cyber and physical interdependencies and impacts while coordinating a Whole Community level cyber and physical response.
Continuity Exercise/Eagle Horizon: This operations-based exercise will evaluate the continuity capability of federal departments and agencies. A component will include a nationwide exercise examining communications capability of the homeland security enterprise under conditions in which critical systems have been degraded or lost.
In addition to the major exercises, the NLE 2012 process will include senior level exercises, building-block events (i.e., seminars, tabletop exercises, and training) and routine exercise planning conferences.
As more information is released on these upcoming national preparedness drills, The Intel Hub will bring them to our readers attention.









