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Why Do We Need Local Money?

Why Do We Need Local Money?.

From ROB HOPKINS
Transition Network UK

[Foreword to the book ‘Local Money‘]

The power of holding your community’s own money.

September 2009, Lambeth Town Hall, Brixton. On a beautiful evening with just the first hint of autumn in the air, hundreds of people are packed into the large room for the launch of the Brixton Pound. In the days running up to the launch, the media was full of stories about the currency; it even made the front page of the BBC website on the day. Alongside explanations of how it is intended to work and interviews with advocates were mainstream economists who, somewhat patronisingly, assured readers that this could never really work and that it was all tremendously naive and foolish. Clearly that was a sentiment that those gathered in the hall, and the 70 traders already keen to accept the notes, had chosen to overlook – or, more likely, would fervently disagree with. This event was both a celebration of the new currency and, perhaps most importantly, of Brixton itself.

Derrick Anderson, the Chief Executive of the local council, which had partly funded the initiative, told the audience that he would be using Brixton Pounds, that he hoped they would become ‘the currency of choice for Brixton’, and that he was delighted that this was a good news story about the area. When I spoke to him later, I explored with him how deep the commitment of the council to this new currency would actually run. Would it accept the currency in payment of Council Tax? Would it accept rent from stallholders in Brixton Pounds? The answer to both questions was yes: a national first.

At the end of the evening, the notes themselves were unveiled to rapturous applause. Each note featured a prominent Brixtonian, chosen via a community-wide ‘Vote the Note’ poll. They showed Vincent Van Gogh on the £20 note; C. L. R. James, a local historian, political theorist and cricket writer on the £10 note; Gaia theorist James Lovelock on the £5 noteand Olive Morris, Brixton Black Women’s Group founder, on the £1. Morris had died at the age of 27, and some members of her family were present to see this extraordinary memorial to her life and work.

At the end of the evening, people brought the first notes into circulation, and the Brixton Pound was now a reality, ready to take its place in the tills of Brixton. But is this legal? Will it work? And, perhaps most importantly, why would anyone bother?

The emergence of Transition currencies

In 2006, I attended a talk by economist Bernard Lietaer at Schumacher College. He said two things that stuck with me: firstly, that localisation was impossible without having a local currency; secondly, that that local currency had to be designed in such a way that businesses would use it. I was familiar with models such as time banks and Local Exchange Trading Schemes (I had been a member of a few different LETS schemes), but I left Lietaer’s talk thinking that something else was needed. A few days later, I visited a local film company whose offices used to be the Totnes Bank. Lovingly framed and hanging on the wall was an 1810 Totnes banknote – a beautiful handwritten document, which had been legal tender in the town. What would happen, I wondered, if we printed some new ones? If we got a few shops to agree to take them and just ran it for three months and saw where they went? Would we be allowed, or would we suffer dawn raids from the Bank of England and be stuffed into a small and rather unpleasant room in the Tower of Londonreserved exclusively for those who print their own money? The answer to all those questions was a big ‘no idea’, but in the Transition movement that is rarely a reason for inaction. From the moment when 150 people first sat in St John’s Church waving their freshly minted Totnes Pounds, the first for almost 200 years, the idea of communities printing their own money has, as Peter North so lucidly narrates in this book, grown rapidly.

First came Lewes in Sussex, then Stroud, then Brixton, and now several other places have their own schemes on the drawing board. Each currency learns from the previous ones in a wonderful iterative way, and each currency is fiercely of its place. They are all bold, thought-provoking and charming, and they all embody an important principle of not waiting for permission to initiate the process of relocalisation. They couldn’t have come at a more timely moment.

Why do we need local money?

In spite of the Queen’s musing aloud in early 2009 as to why no one had seen the economic meltdown coming, many people had been only too aware that economics, as currently practised, is designed to draw money upwards, does nothing to stop the poor getting poorer and everything to help the rich get richer, and has no loyalty to communities or individuals. A common national unit of exchange – sterling – is, of course, extremely useful, as it enables national trade. Yet its weaknesses are such that it needs a complementary currency running alongside it. Some transactions can be in one; some in another.

The very thing that sterling is designed to do, i.e. enable and stimulate trading between people and businesses, it often fails to do – especially in times of economic contraction. Money often feels like something ‘done to’ communities. The large corporate chains that now dominate the nation’s high streets are like mining operations, extracting the potential wealth of communities and siphoning it away to shareholders and executive bonuses. It is a vicious cycle: people buy from chain stores, less money goes to local businesses, less money circulates locally, local businesses struggle, and we end up with identical high streets up and down the land – what the new economics foundation calls ‘Clone Town Britain’. A local currency is an intervention that can, it is hoped, start to reverse that trend, building trade for local businesses, creating a mindfulness that means people start to choose local shops over chains, and encouraging them to get out and discover the independent traders in their community.

Money and resilience

Central to Transition is the concept of resilience. This is the concept, originally from ecology, that systems – whether businesses, settlements or entire nations – tend to be more or less able to withstand shocks from the outside. Although just-in-time distribution systems allow us to have access to a dazzling array of foodstuffs and other goods (much of which our great-grandparents wouldn’t have even been able to name), we are left with an economy with little inbuilt resilience. The whole system is highly oil-vulnerable. Price volatility, or worse still, actual shortages, are things we are hugely unprepared for and could be devastating.

In the middle of the nineteenth century, when there was no welfare state and some business owners still paid their employees in a far less ethical form of local currency, one that could be spent only in their own stores, the question of ‘plugging the leaks’ in local economies was not hypothetical: it was, for many communities, a matter of survival. The Cooperative movement emerged, inviting people to invest inwards into their communities; to invest in local jobs and local businesses. It was hugely successful, and its legacy is still with us today. As the scale of the UK’s debt, incurred through years of living beyond our means and the 2008 bailing out of the banks, becomes clear, and the scale of the cuts in public spending that they will necessitate also emerges into reality, we find ourselves needing models and approaches to do the same thing again. Communities will find themselves needing each other again, after years of being able to get by without knowing your neighbours and the very idea of community being pilloried.

Where all this might lead

So where might all this end up, if local currency becomes a key element of our daily lives? One could imagine a situation where several of the approaches Peter outlines here sit alongside our ongoing relationship with sterling. A significant proportion of our weekly shop would be done with local businesses, which, in turn, would encourage them to seek out local suppliers, leading to an explosion of local market gardening and other local manufacturing.

Alongside the printed currencies, we may also make use of time banks, and we may be members of a local credit union. For loans, we may talk to the credit union, or we might visit a website such as zopa.com and borrow direct from other people, with no bank in the middle. Any surplus money that we want to invest, we are now able to invest in local shares or bond issues, which raise the capital for our locally owned energy company to begin installing renewables, or for local food-growing initiatives to secure access to land. There may well be all kinds of evolutions that we can only speculate on at this stage, such as local electronic cards or even the idea of currencies that are stored on our mobile phones. Perhaps there will be regional currencies, as can already be found in Austria, Germany and Switzerland. What is key is that as humanity begins its inevitable shift away from energy-intensive, globalised, corporate economics to a more human-scale, localised version, the way we ‘do’ money will need to catch up. This book identifies a number of possible tools, and doubtless there are many more yet to be thought of.

The Cheerful Disclaimer

What Peter has done here is write a book that is a clear and deeply researched practical guide for you to get started, laying out of some of the tools that increased economic localisation will need. He brings to this project many years of insight and observation of local currencies around the world, and I hope that you will find the result both fascinating and thrilling. It is important at this stage to bring in what we call ‘The Cheerful Disclaimer’. If you are reading this book thinking that local currencies, the Transition idea, projects like the Brixton Pound, are all tried-and-tested things that we can guarantee will definitely work, think again. Transition is an iterative process, a collaborative process of learning as we go along, of sharing successes and failures, of people being bold and trying things out, and learning from what has gone before.

At this time in history when things are changing so fast, this kind of innovative thinking and creativity is something that can really come only from communities, who are able to innovate and experiment in highly imaginative ways. Although this book does not come with a guarantee of success, it does come with the firm belief that what we need to do, what has the most chance of enabling a successful Transition, is to harness engaged optimism. What does engaged optimism look like? The currencies discussed in this book are all just one approach; perhaps just initial experiments from which other, better-refined, approaches will emerge. What they do, though, is give a physical form to that sense of engaged optimism: a tangible statement of a community’s intent.

Moving forward

The Transition movement has developed a power and a speed to its vital momentum around the world. As I write, there are well over 200 formal initiatives and thousands more at earlier stages. Will they all produce their own currencies, and indeed do they need to? Probably not. What they will no doubt do, though, is continue to innovate, and it is that spirit of innovation that we hope this book captures. Having attended the launches of the Totnes, Lewes and Brixton Pounds (I was unable to make the Stroud one), I was struck by the fact that they were all characterised by being incredibly energetic and dynamic occasions. You get a sense at these events of a latent power that governments can’t tap, but which rather can be ‘unleashed’ only by those communities themselves.

This book was preceded by Local Food, which set out an array of things that Transition Initiatives can do to start building resilience around food, seeing this as an opportunity to rethink many basic assumptions in a very creative way. It sought to give Transition food groups the best possible start and save them reinventing too many wheels. This book does much the same, capturing from across the Transition network, as well as from the many projects that preceded and which run in parallel to it, best practice as it is currently understood in relation to alternative currencies.

You don’t need to wait for anyone’s permission to initiate local money. Its potential as a tool for relocalisation is something we are only just starting to grasp. One of the key things for a successful local currency scheme is trust. People use sterling because they know it and they trust it. Without trust, money is meaningless. However, the process of building trust in the currency is also one of building trust in local traders, and of local people learning to trust one another again.

Ultimately, the best thing about these schemes is simply that they are more fun; they feel better. Shopping with 40 Brixton, Totnes, Lewes or Stroud Pounds, you still return home with £40 worth of shopping, but what you leave behind you is a far more virtuous cycle of money cycling around locally, supporting local businesses, local traders and so on. Local currencies are, in effect, ‘mindful money’. Our daily actions can make a huge difference, and local currencies can become a very powerful, and far-reaching, fact of everyday life. This book celebrates those who have taken the first steps to create them.

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Be ready for the Bank Run of 2012 Global Financial Meltdown

Bank Run
Bank Run!

Daniel J Leach

I have been saying that the Global Financial Meltdown was just around the corner for years now!  It finally looks like we are on the verge of this happening this year.  I would not be surprised if this happens in October 2012!  This is a case of history repeating itself! “Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.” George Santayana

   A bank run occurs when a large number of bank customers withdraw their deposits because they believe the bank might fail. As more people withdraw their deposits, the likelihood of default increases, and this encourages further withdrawals. This can destabilize the bank to the point where it faces bankruptcy.[1]

The stock market crash of October 1929 left the American public highly nervous and …at the time, making it the largest single bank failure in American history.

In December 1931, New York’s Bank of the United States collapsed. The bank had more than $200 million in deposits at the time, making it the largest single bank failure in American history.

The bank runs of 1930 were followed by similar banking panics in the spring and fall of 1931 and the fall of 1932. In some instances, bank runs were started simply by rumors of a bank’s inability or unwillingness to pay out funds. In December 1930, the New York Times reported that a small merchant in the Bronx went to a branch of the Bank of the United States and asked to sell his stock in the institution. When told the stock was a good investment and advised not to sell, he left the bank and began spreading rumors that the bank had refused to sell his stock. Within hours, a crowd had gathered outside the bank, and that afternoon between 2,500 and 3,500 depositors withdrew a total of $2 million in funds.

 

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The Global Financial Meltdown has dramatically worsened as Corporations and China Jump Aboard The “Institutional” Global Bank Run As Banks Fall Apart As Their Seams.

Earlier today the world saw a global financial meltdown as investors dumped everything from stocks to commodities and literally everything in between.

Global Financial Meltdown: Investors Dump Nearly Everything Amidst Worldwide Market Crash

Global Meltdown - Investors Are Dumping Everything

Major Stock Market Indexes, Commodities, Currencies And Everything In Between Is Being Dumped By Investors Across The Globe In The Midst Of A Global Financial Meltdown.

The financial markets across the globe are facing one of the most massive sell-offs in recent memory.

The Dow Jones Industrial average has sold off over 467 points today. When and when you add that on top of 284 point drop following yesterday’s crash FED’s statement, which announced operation ‘twist’ and warned of significant downside risk and strains in global financial markets, we have a 751 point drop in the DOW since 2:45 PM est yesterday, which is the largest 2 day slump since 2008.

There are an endless parade of economic statistics many of which are the worse since the Great Depression and World War 2 era. We have also seen 111 of the s&P 500 hit fresh 52 week lows, a drop in global currencies – beside the dollar, oil dropping into the high $70 per barrel range and gold plummeting over 5% to trade in the low $1,700 per ounce range.

Business Week points out the massive crash in U.S. stocks immediately below while CNBC points out further below that this in fact a global meltdown – investors are dumping everything.

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While today’s sell off was monumental and in fact is on course for the 3rd worse week on Wall Street ever, the sell-off was on the heels of the FED’s economic outlook. Today’s Global Financial Meltdown is about to become much worse as a slew of news reports out today reveal the run on the European banks has spread to include corporations and institutions pulling their money out of banks and China finally arriving at the party.

As a backdrop, the IMF warned the entire global financial systems is more vulnerable to collapse than at any other time since the 2008 financial crisis. The alarm is being sounded with the stern warning the European debt crisis could trigger the complete collapse of the entire global financial system at any minute. On the other hand, the alternative media and independent economists warn we are in fact in of a great depression style collapse. The only difference is this time around we would be facing a global depression. But as the ship their countrymen sail on continues to sink, bureaucrats continueto play politics and put their partisan interests above the interest of their constituents.

The run on European banks has already began with from the customers pulling their money from banks some time ago. While the corporate media kept the run on the Greece banks on the hush the media blackout didn’t stop the run nor did it stop the run from spreading to other nations. Simply put, the public is learning they can’t trust their governments and they can’t trust the media. Indeed the withdrawal of deposits from the banks in Greece has quietly spread across the other European nations only to spread into some of the supposedly most stable banks in the Euro-zone, the French banks.

Now we have learned the run on the banks that was originally limited to customers has now spread to include corporate and institutional clients withdrawing their money from the banks. First, we caught wind of the rumor that Siemens pulled its cash from one of the French banks. Then came theconfirmation came that Siemens pulled $500 million Euros from Societe Generale. Siemens of course is a huge conglomerate. For such a huge corporation to lose trust in one of the supposedly most stable of the French banks is clearly a very significant development. To be clear, the ramification have simply rocked the markets and the many more corporations soon will follow. In fact, some corporations and nations have followed their lead.

Consider the breaking news that The Bank of China has stopped doing business with four major European banks. To be exact thy have stopped trading swaps and foreign exchange forwards with the Societe Gnerale, BNP Paribas, Credit Agricole and the Swiss banking giant UBS.

Speaking of BNP Paribas, Reggie Middleton – who long predicted the collapse of Lehman’s and Bear Stearns far ahead of anyone else because of their shady banking practices – has been warning for months BNP Paribas is ripe for a Lehman style collapse. Reggie argues that BNP Paribas is engaging in the same practices and fraud that caused Lehman’s and Bear Stearn’s to collapse.

While on the subject of China, we learn today they are not immune to the bank run either. China Securities Journal reveals that 420 billion yuan have been pulled out of the big four state-owned Chinese bank during the 15 days of September. Even bank employees are pulling their deposits from the banks as it is estimated that three trillion yuan has been diverted to illegal money lenders which pay interest rates 10 times higher than the one-year Chinese bank deposit rate.

Today we also learn that Insurer Lloyd’s of London confirmed it’s withdrawing deposits from all of the European banks for fear they may collapse. The rationalization for their withdrawal is quite simple – if world is worried about the European governments themselves collapsing then on must assume the sovereign debt collapse will also cause the banks themselves to collapse.

Still that message doesn’t seem to be reaching the retail banking client and the corporate owned media is to blame for repeatedly assuring the public there bank deposits are safe because the banks are insured by their respective European government.

When we see corporations not buying the propaganda being pushed by the media and instead withdrawing their deposits that should be a clear sign to the retail client it is time to withdraw their deposits. Unfortunately, too many people believe their governments and the media would never lie to them so some of them will unfortunately need to learn the hard way.

However, anyone keeping up with the details of latest financial news that doesn’t quite make the headlines knows that banks across the world have been hit with a parade of credit rating cuts warning of their risk of collapse. Those same cuts have been coupled with recent credit rating cuts of the sovereign of nations themselves, most notably the credit downgrades of the United States and Italy.

Adding to the bleak reality a global financial collapse may be imminent is the fact that 9 Banks failed last years EU stress test and another 16 barely passed the test. Yet instead of being proactive and shoring up capital to assure the survival of financial turmoil, we have seen many banks continue to conduct business in absolute denial they were at risk. In ignorance of reality the banks have sat around for over a year knowing they are at risk of collapse while doing little to nothing the improve their situation. Why should they act? They know when shit hits the fan taxpayers will be bent over the barrel and be forced to give the banks billions in bailouts from which the executives will collect lavish bonuses.

Now we have warnings from top economists and the FED that there is significant downside risk and strains in the global financial system that threatens the entire system. The is coupled with warnings from the IMF and EU leaders to immediately recapitalize the banks or face collapse. The calls for recapitalization have persisted for weeks with no action taken to stave off the collapse. Meanwhile, the consequences of not acting immediately continue to become more severe by the day.

The EU credit markets have frozen up and the situation is now beyond the point of dire. The question is which bank will be the first to collapse.

While all eyes seem to be focused on the Euro banks across the pond, banks back in the US are not immune from the crisis and neither are the Chinese banks.

In fact, Bank of America has been hammered by the alternative media as needing capitalization but BAC has denied those allegations and the corporate media has dismissed the alternative media reports as comments from fringe blogs. Until today that is.

Pimco’s Mohamed El-Erian raised the alarm today about the health of French banks and went on to point out there is an institutional run on thosebanks.

CNBC, went on to use the metrics El-Erain used to measure the health of the French banks to measure the health of US banks and found US banks aren’t nearly as healthy as Wall Street would like to believe.

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14,000 U.S. Dead in 14 Weeks After Fukushima Meltdown

14,000 U.S. Dead in 14 Weeks After Fukushima Meltdown

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Kurt Nimmo
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December 20, 2011
A peer-reviewed study published in the International Journal of Health Services estimates 14,000 excess deaths in the United States are linked to the radioactive fallout from the Fukushima nuclear reactors. The article by Joseph Mangano and Janette Sherman is the first published in a medical journal.
“This study of Fukushima health hazards is the first to be published in a scientific journal. It raises concerns, and strongly suggests that health studies continue, to understand the true impact of Fukushima in Japan and around the world. Findings are important to the current debate of whether to build new reactors, and how long to keep aging ones in operation,” writes Joseph Mangano, who is an epidemiologist.
The authors write that that their estimate of 14,000 excess U.S. deaths in the 14 weeks following the Fukushima meltdowns is comparable to the 16,500 excess deaths in the 17 weeks after the Chernobyl meltdown in 1986. Most of the deaths occurred among U.S. infants under age one. The 2010-2011 increase for infant deaths in the spring was 1.8 percent, compared to a decrease of 8.37 percent in the preceding 14 weeks, the authors note.
The arrival of a radioactive plume over the United States following the March 11 disaster was downplayed by the establishment media despite the presence of levels of radiation in air, water, and milk hundreds of times above normal.
The highest detected levels of Iodine-131 in precipitation in the U.S. were as follows (normal is about 2 picocuries I-131 per liter of water): Boise, ID (390); Kansas City (200); Salt Lake City (190); Jacksonville, FL (150); Olympia, WA (125); and Boston, MA (92), according to a press release posted on December 19 by Joseph Mangano, Janette Sherman and the International Journal of Health Services.
“Based on our continuing research, the actual death count here may be as high as 18,000, with influenza and pneumonia, which were up five-fold in the period in question as a cause of death. Deaths are seen across all ages, but we continue to find that infants are hardest hit because their tissues are rapidly multiplying, they have undeveloped immune systems, and the doses of radioisotopes are proportionally greater than for adults,” said Janette Sherman, an adjunct professor at Western Michigan University, and contributing editor of “Chernobyl – Consequences of the Catastrophe for People and the Environment” published by the NY Academy of Sciences in 2009.
The health impact of the radiation released from Fukushima was downplayed by the Japanese and U.S. governments. “The United States came up with a decision to downplay Fukushima,” said Arnie Gundersen, a energy advisor veteran with 39 years of experience as a nuclear power engineer. “The US government has come up with a decision at the highest levels of the State Department, as well as other departments who made a decision to downplay Fukushima,” he said. “Hillary Clinton signed a pact with Japan that she agreed there is no problem with Japanese food supply and we will continue to buy them so we are not sampling food coming in from Japan.”
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Vic says:
December 20, 2011 at 9:45 am
Does anybody know for sure if 9/11 did not invlove nuke radiation? they been covering up a lot for the last 60 years so it would not surprize me one bit that there were nukes involved in 9/11 but like the rest: covered up ignored???
Billo Reply:
December 20th, 2011 at 9:58 am
Some believe there were nukes involved. It takes something extraordinarily powerful to do the type of damage witnessed. What can vaporize steel and turn all the concrete into powder in about 10 seconds?
Vic Reply:
December 20th, 2011 at 11:25 am
takes more than nukes to do that
Glen Reply:
December 20th, 2011 at 3:11 pm
Moron… You would have to be retarded to believe that comment.
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December 20th, 2011 at 7:33 pm
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Quantummonkeybutt Reply:
December 20th, 2011 at 7:38 pm
You Might Like This One Better…At Least Good For A Laugh ;)
Thanks To msmilkytheclown For Giving Us Your Special Humor Under Not-So Pleasant Conditions…
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Tom Reply:
December 20th, 2011 at 2:01 pm
I read an article about “thermite” being created by first putting one chemical at all the places they wanted melted, and then another chemical was blasted onto it when the explosions took place. Can’t for the life of me find the article now, though….
dracula Reply:
December 20th, 2011 at 2:55 pm
thermate not thermite a nantech design that can be used to melt down the steel into slag pools that stayed molten for months
not hours not days but months but i believe it was a miniature nuke to turn everything to dust like that the city had been radiated and they try to hide the truth for there should be permutations in animals and humans in that city
Glen Reply:
December 20th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
No EMP no Nuke.
The Nuke 911 is a MYTH perpetrated by MORONS.
sauque madique Reply:
December 20th, 2011 at 4:38 pm
sub surface nukes emp would be shielded by the ground and and the metal frame would also diffuse bit like a Faraday cage ,check a nbc tm for the difference between an air burst and a sub surface,why do you think they only do underground testing now no emp
Tom Reply:
December 20th, 2011 at 6:35 pm
There you are again, Glen, trying to nay say serious issues. Your slip is showing.
Mark54321 Reply:
December 20th, 2011 at 8:21 pm
You are clueless Glen or you are a troll. Are you shills now trying gain credibility by using normal names? Nukes were used on 911, as were other exotic weapons. Liars are headed for the lake of fire, and you are one of them unless you repent of your evil!
a_salty_dog Reply:
December 20th, 2011 at 5:29 pm
A small 4 th Generation hydrogen bomb with an anti-hydrogen tamper (the Plutonium pit and conventional RDX explosives are eliminated leaving no fission products leaving only a Tritium signature). Considering you get a theoretical Fusion release of 6Kt per Kg, then the physics package devices would have been around the size and weight of a hand grenade.
Thats why even SEAL nuclear demolition experts such as Jesse Ventura has expressed an opinion that an exotic nuclear devices may have been used.
beijingyank Reply:
December 20th, 2011 at 10:15 am
Sweetheart, the high levels of tritium reported right after “the event” by a Southern California university did not come from thin air.
There was also a radiation spike reported from government survey shortly after 911 coming out of the Israeli embassy on the east side of NY.
Google Dr. Ward, 911, and you will find the case for underground nukes compelling. Confirmation came years later with the rare cancer spike in the 911 rescue workers/firemen.
The funny story comes from a cop at Fishkill, the dump site for the 911 debris. One day the FBI came for a visit. The cop sitting in a shed to escape the fumes had a cloth mask and was wondering “what is wrong with this picture” when the FBI said “hello” in full hazmat gear, complete with duct tape at strategic locations of the armor.
Vic Reply:
December 20th, 2011 at 11:27 am
if this is true, Bush , Cheney Rumfeld and mignions still walk free?
Tom Reply:
December 20th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld took down the WTC towers. Want to arrest them? Try it solo and see how far you get.
Glen Reply:
December 20th, 2011 at 3:15 pm
Yes TOMTARD….One BULLET EACH by ONE PATRIOT EACH.
As a ZIONIST STOOGE you would hate to see your best troops taken out.
Tom Reply:
December 20th, 2011 at 6:36 pm
Glen — Americans in America who experience this shit will know what I mean. We don’t know who YOU are.
Fred C Dobbs Reply:
December 20th, 2011 at 6:42 pm
It’s like the line in the movie Two Jakes. “They don’t arrest people like that, they name buildings after them”.
Jasher the Giant Killer Reply:
December 20th, 2011 at 2:03 pm
They do have such things as mini nukes that vaporize things in split second up to a certain distance. Tge mossad has this type of weapon.
sauque madique Reply:
December 20th, 2011 at 5:14 pm
tactical nuke are 155-255 artillery shells ( mini nuke )and yes they do exist the last 255s units were retired mid 80s early 90s and the arizona and missouri big guns were also capable of firing nuke rounds look at the treaties for what each side had ,the numbers of small nukes was not made public as much as the big warheads and icbms until the arms limitation treaty was dragged out due to the nuetron bomb and tactical stock piles assessment by all parties involved and ratified
truthistruth Reply:
December 20th, 2011 at 2:30 pm
ok, i’m all for the 9/11 truth movement but come on people!!! did you see anything like a mushroom cloud? even a suitcase nuke would be obvious if it went off…
a_salty_dog Reply:
December 20th, 2011 at 6:29 pm
The Baneberry underground nuclear weapons test kinda look familiar if you would imagine a rather large Skyscaper atop of it.
w w w. toptenz.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Baneberry-Blast.jpg
Glen Reply:
December 20th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
Where is your Proof, Paste a link to the documents.
Or it is just all crap.
Conventional EXPLOSIVES and Thermate was all that would be required.
To believe anything else was used is just Crap without proof.
sauque madique Reply:
December 20th, 2011 at 4:47 pm
nuclear demolition treaty put that in a search engine also try operation plowshare same time frame as the design for these structures and the treaty is also mention in salt 1n2 in the 70s
a_salty_dog Reply:
December 20th, 2011 at 6:44 pm
‘Conventional EXPLOSIVES and Thermate was all that would be required.’
I would have to agree with you there, but for one major flaw, which was the amount of structural steel that was left in the resulting pile and the lack of concrete which made it down to ground level whereas the paper did and the filing cabinets didn’t. The majority of the structural steel just simply went up in smoke/disappeared. I have even considered that the energy balance problem may have even been down to the possibility of pink and red water secretly used during the construction (a conspiracy theory you won’t hear about). The only conclusion based on the laws of thermodynamics i.e. the conservation of energy was that a nuclear source was indeed used.
Templewind Reply:
December 20th, 2011 at 4:46 pm
Dr. Woods investigation pointed more to a Haarp type weapon since the underground “bowl” was practically undisturbed. She wasn’t discounting some portion of it being explosive in nature, but not the majority.
rxantos Reply:
December 20th, 2011 at 4:34 pm
@Vic
Your comment makes no sense. A nuke would have taken the area plus leave radiation.
However some people do believe that thermite was used.
a_salty_dog Reply:
December 20th, 2011 at 5:45 pm
The X-ray pulse was picked up by the Russian GLONASS and the US GPS.
a_salty_dog Reply:
December 20th, 2011 at 6:22 pm
A lot of research was carried out under the SDI initiative for very lightweight (quickly get into LOE) X-ray LASER (anti-hydrogen technology) during the Reagan administration.
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Spymyeys says:
December 20, 2011 at 9:45 am
OMG,
“Hillary Clinton signed a pact with Japan that she agreed there is no problem with Japanese food supply and we will continue to buy them so we are not sampling food coming in from Japan”.
Here I thought that the radiation detectors “unexpectedly” failed all over the USA when the 1st plumes made to our shores and the lies that were told that nothing was wrong & the radiation levels have been adjusted so now all “reading” are considered safe- was the only shit they pulled on us.
So, all those stories about japaneese goods getting held up in customs and ultimitlly rejected entry into ports all over the world are just more lies. I am so fucking sick & tired of all the lies, lies, lies.
Ima just gonna tune out, turn on, and smile, all the way to the last free christmass in amerikka we will ever have under the current system of liars. Wake me up when it’s time to start killing the traitors of our republic, I am NOT going to miss out on that one!
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Vic says:
December 20, 2011 at 9:47 am
They fear IRAN because they now have nuclear power, but hey there are more than 400 nuclear plants on this planet and fushihama is just on place.Now how many more plants are leaking? or could suffer the same faith as Japan?
I guess BIg pharma wants to be very very rich? while we slowly die, they will sell us meds until we die? what a sick system.
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American Dystopia says:
December 20, 2011 at 10:22 am
14,000 so far which means Fukushima is already 5 time worse than 9/11 and many more tens of thousands of Americans will die over the years because of it. Will we spend trillions to modernize our Nuke plants? No radiation is good for you.
gibb Reply:
December 20th, 2011 at 11:08 am
Everytime i see a post like this i get out my geiger counter and take a reading. Still only minor backroung radiation. From what i hear, that is leftover from the thousands of nuke test in the past. Our greatest dangers now are The super volcano at Yellowstone, genetically engineared germs meant to kill most of the earths population, The socialist traitors in DC.
The way i see it , our only hope is Jesus Christ .
Vic Reply:
December 20th, 2011 at 11:34 am
well I don’t know about that, Jesus has nothing to do with all this.
He has been gone for more than 2,000 years seems.
our only hope is get rid of the criminals responsable of this NWO madness. one by one.
we are 7 billion still alive now. if we are to be killed, best bring one evil one with every one of us they kill? In the end game, the good ones will survive for evil is a handfull compared to the masses? or is it the case?
The Elite can see the plan is not going to go the way they thought it would.So we must prepare for something real bad soon.
dracula Reply:
December 20th, 2011 at 2:59 pm
sorry but he is on his way back now YAHSHUAH IS THE ANSWER AND HE TOLD US TO FIGHT THESE EVIL BASTARDS AND BRING THEM DOWN
American Dystopia Reply:
December 20th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
First of all Geiger Counters do NOT detect Plutonium,Uranium,or strontium they admit Alpha and Beta radiation Geiger Counters detect Gamma radiation only. You and I and everyone down wind of Fukushima breathed in these particles ate and drank them in the days and weeks after the disaster along with iodine-131, cesium-137 which are detectable.
Iodine-131 which made up the bulk of what a Geiger Counters could have detected is gone now having a half life of only 8 days. It would have made up the majority of fatalities reported in the Medical Journal Article.
Minor background radiation as fools and governments call it kills millions globally every year. It is comprised of sources both natural and man made, but all of it is just as deadly. No level is safe it’s all a statistical risk.
Example If you had a 1 in 1,000 chance of getting sick from the natural level of radiation in a given amount of time say 14 weeks and the level was increased just one percent your personal chances of getting sick haven’t changed hardly at all. However out of say 1 million people 1000 were going to get sick anyhow and because of the increase 10 additional people also got sick. Those ten were victims of what ever caused the increase.
a_salty_dog Reply:
December 20th, 2011 at 5:40 pm
‘First of all Geiger Counters do NOT detect Plutonium,Uranium,or strontium they admit Alpha and Beta radiation Geiger Counters detect Gamma radiation only.’
Geiger Muller tube counters will detect Alpha, Beta and Gamma radiation. The only difference is that you need to be nearer the source for Alpha emitters than you do for Beta emitters than you do for Gamma emitters.
American Dystopia Reply:
December 20th, 2011 at 6:11 pm
When the source is a microscopic particle in your lung or in your bone marrow how do you get close enough?
Templewind Reply:
December 20th, 2011 at 5:07 pm
Man have you got that right….but I would add that gathering a few people on a daily basis to pray according to the “Lord’s Prayer” model, and seeing if He will give specific instructions beyond that, is called for now. “Thy Kingdom come, Thy Will be done”. He does have a will, and I want to know what that is, for me and mine….and then, what can we do and how should we pray for any other thing He deems important! I hope that makes sense…
a_salty_dog Reply:
December 20th, 2011 at 6:54 pm
‘When the source is a microscopic particle in your lung or in your bone marrow how do you get close enough?’
The hot particle exposure on the west coast of the USA was a major environment and health problem. There were reports that folks in Seattle were statistically breathing in 1-2 hot particle or fuel flies (even MOX plutonium) every day which was extrapolated from the the results of car engine air filters around 4-8 weeks after the Fukushima disaster.
You would probably need a Gamma Camera scan to locate the particle.
Mark54321 Reply:
December 20th, 2011 at 8:30 pm
Jesus put Obama over the USA to bring judgment on a wicked and perverse generation of idolaters and rebels. You are going to now be given a choice to serve satan or serve Jesus, Obama is the Antichrist, he has been busy destroying the USA on behalf of the satanists and he is just getting started. He is about to take a bullet to the head from the Bush Cabal, he is going to be proclaimed dead by the media, and then satan is going to enter into him and bring him back to life. Then the whole world will wonder after the beast who had a head wound, BUT DID LIVE!
Look up the Obama prophecies.
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RiverRat says:
December 20, 2011 at 10:23 am
Ya know, I agree with a lot of the things I read on here but sometimes I read a story or comment that comes just completely outta left field. And, I gotta say, implying that WTC was nuked is a little too far out for me to buy. There would have been far more dead in NYC than what there were had that been a nuclear weapon. You can call me a “sheep” or whatever. Like I said, I whole-heartedly believe a lotta the things I read on here, just not some of it.
Philippe Reply:
December 20th, 2011 at 10:31 am
You’re not alone. Some people believe in holographic planes used to slam into the towers. No shortage of speculation, but I’m still waiting for the evidence of some mini nuke used. It appeared to be a demolition, just with more powerful charges.
gibb Reply:
December 20th, 2011 at 11:23 am
I was thinking the same thing. There are a lot of people out there that don’t know how things work. My first wife thought the TV picture came from the power cord. She said if you unplug it the picture stops. If you think about it, she was actualy right. The light that makes up the picture comes from the power cord. She said she didn’t believe they went to the moon also. Since everything dosn’t really exist ,it’s all an ellusion , she may be right again,,,, think about it???
Vic Reply:
December 20th, 2011 at 11:42 am
YEp a lot of people ignore how nukes have evolved since 1945??????? and how many ignore what technlogies they now have to deceive us all?
since you seem to know a lot, what about the blue book UFO mind conditioning? why was that there? Roswell 1947, add to that philadelphia experiment, Montauk??? tesla technology HAARPS??? all too far fetched?
right now 9/11 is still left without a serious investigation.So how can anyone rule out nukes or another form of radiation technology was not used? since never before did anyone see two towers go down like dust? That wasn’t any conventional destruction.
Whether you beleive or not that holographic technology does exist, does not rule out it’s existance!!!! we can all agree on one thing: 9/11 was a major demolition operation no matter who succeeded to fool the most powerfull military country on the planet?
thus that is why 9/11 was and still is an inside job! look how Congress and the Senate vote? Is that not proof enough something is realy wrong?
Peace and LOve to all
Glen Reply:
December 20th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
Damn Vic Grow a BRAIN you MORON
Templewind Reply:
December 20th, 2011 at 5:19 pm
Google Dr. Judy Wood. She has done an incredible amount of work to uncover what actually happened, based on the pictorial evidence. She made a believer out of me that whatever turned those buildings into dust was not conventional weaponry, for the most part anyway.
wiggins Reply:
December 20th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
How do you explain 1,400 cars multiple blocks away burnt to a cinder?
Glen Reply:
December 20th, 2011 at 3:21 pm
They weren’t BURNT TO A CINDER.
The pictures you see with them all rusty are due to the IRON Micro Spheres deposited when the Thermate reacted, (Created iron spheres) and the Iron if the towers that was melted then blasted out in the explosion.
This rusted within days so the first photos looked like burned metal.
This is just PROOF of the method of Demolition not some HEAT Pulse from a NUKE.
There was NO EMP… THERE WAS NO NUKE
Templewind Reply:
December 20th, 2011 at 5:34 pm
And without door handles in many cases, but with unmelted rubber tires, full of air, on a car with a melted body. Too weird!
Tom Reply:
December 20th, 2011 at 2:03 pm
RiverRat – Nukes come in all sizes. And some don’t even leave radiation.
Glen Reply:
December 20th, 2011 at 3:17 pm
WOW TOMTARD….What a load of SHIT.
How can a Nuke POSSIBLY NOT HAVE RADIATION
Damn you are a MORON.
They also have to have a CRITICAL MASS to be considered a NUKE.
Otherwise all DU Rounds would be considered nukes.
a_salty_dog Reply:
December 20th, 2011 at 6:04 pm
‘How can a Nuke POSSIBLY NOT HAVE RADIATION’
Anti-matter. And yes anti-matter does exist. And yes the production facilities do exist (if you want to go looking for God Particle then $9 Billion USD is a hefty price tag) They are very expensive though compared to your common or garden 3rd generation Plutonium pit Tritium boosted Hydrogen bomb.
Tom Reply:
December 20th, 2011 at 6:38 pm
a_salty_dog – Then I shouldn’t have said nuke. A-boms and H-bombs are different. Whatever the name, there are bombs that are as small as, as destructive as, but leaving no radiation as, a nuclear bomb.
Devout Deviant Reply:
December 20th, 2011 at 7:13 pm
a_salty_dog said: Anti-matter. And yes anti-matter does exist
Really? How does one manufacture and contain ‘anti-matter’ for distribution?
a_salty_dog Reply:
December 20th, 2011 at 8:03 pm
‘Really? How does one manufacture and contain ‘anti-matter’ for distribution?’
In a very hard vacuum containment electromagnetic bottle or a cryogenic system, i.e. few milli kelvin above absolute zero.
i.e. US Patent application number: 20100012864
most ideas are of course classified.
Mark54321 Reply:
December 20th, 2011 at 8:32 pm
It was a micro nuke/s, get your brain in gear! Do some research!
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gearjammer1 says:
December 20, 2011 at 10:24 am
Big Pharma loves you….and don’t you forget it! Most certainly they have a huge stake in this soft kill op. But don’t worry they say…….they have a prescription for these pesky little daily inconveniences.
over.andout.
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maxxxem says:
December 20, 2011 at 10:26 am
evilive…
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MARK OF THE BEAST says:
December 20, 2011 at 10:48 am
Hillary the great humnitarian Bilderberg seat warmer. Now watch the dumb libs vote for her.
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Billo says:
December 20, 2011 at 11:17 am
With freinds like our government who needs enemies. Their message was relax everythings OK. We were all harmed. Some of us have taken steps to ameleorate the effects the radiation most haven’t a clue.
It’s the people close to the edge that events like this will take out. Fact is our world has been degraded. Still more evidence that our worst enemies are our own psychopathic enemy owned leadership.
Vic Reply:
December 20th, 2011 at 11:48 am
soon they will have resolved the problem. once more than 4 billion have been murdered scaring the rest to submission.
or project bluebeam is activated so the NWO does what it is meant to do?
a 1 world government with a 1 world religion.
worship your master see the picture?
that is where our race is headed too.But………. there are so many unpredictable things that can happen that can ruin the plan of that BORG take over……… history will tell us the true answers I guess? but most of us will be statistics
Vic Reply:
December 20th, 2011 at 11:52 am
statistic either death by virus flue? or nuked, or earth quakes and tsunami’s??? your choice is as good as mine?
dracula Reply:
December 20th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
what if project blue beam is a fraud and i have papers i got on that item twenty years ago
saying the govt has a giant holo projector i wonder if that is a lie since in the book of genesis says that the creator put emits between the serpents seed and the womans seed or in plain term the dna what if they are ufos are real and that the fallen ones are reptoids and they are trying to alter the human genome and maybe that is the mark of the beast not some transponder
to finish off the conjecture here is this they have the tech to melt steel and not leave anytype of radiation look at ancient places in the world were there are cities who were nuked over 5000 years ago and they found remains of humans turned to glass mainly the skeletal remains
and stuff like this has been hidden or destroyed by the mad people to hide the truth like giant skeletal remains that seems to disappear and tossed into the ocean to get rid of the evidence
Glen Reply:
December 20th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
You sure are Full of the Crazy Moron Ideas hey Vic
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Matzo Man says:
December 20, 2011 at 12:09 pm
The point as I see it is that our government DOES NOT tell us about it, and in fact, they lie about it.
So why is Raw Milk so important that it merits a Federal raid but a RADIOACTIVE CLOUD, oh, that is OK?
Something is wrong here! Get out of their mind control!!! Free yourself, and Do Not TRUST them!
They want your death.
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sovereign1 says:
December 20, 2011 at 12:12 pm
what about the israelis that were there to document the event?
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bkr360 says:
December 20, 2011 at 12:29 pm
Oh my F-ing God, I wanted to believe that the radiation was not as bad, but I must be dumb. 14,000 people died as a result of Fuckushima. “Hillary Clinton signed a pact with Japan that she agreed there is no problem with Japanese food supply and we will continue to buy them so we are not sampling food coming in from Japan.”
All I want to know is where the ruling elite are, so they can be arrested for treason and fraud. This surly against the law, Fraud and signing it on paper OMG what is wrong with the FBI and our Law Enforcement. There jobs are to investigate and arrest these criminals.
It is time the people take back control of our country.
Vic Reply:
December 20th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
If it is true Hilary signed such a document why is she walking free?
Vic Reply:
December 20th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
what is the FBI doing about it?
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sniper says:
December 20, 2011 at 12:38 pm
They all lied and people got fryed!
Devout Deviant Reply:
December 20th, 2011 at 8:15 pm
Ha HA!!
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ms.christmas says:
December 20, 2011 at 12:41 pm
yes, they lied to everyone.
many lifes will be devastated for many years. and mutataion will occur in olater years. birth defects ect. the bigger picture isnt so bright..
what about the 3200 un capped oil wells in the gulf of mexico.. how much are they seeping out of clear liquid u can not se by the eye. they dont have to be capped becuse they have permits. everyone is worried about bp.. one oil well .. when there are 3200 un capped oil wells.. gosh.. give me a break.. they are destroying our world.. man will destroy his self , thats how selfish some can be in life. damn stupid if u ask me
bkr360 Reply:
December 20th, 2011 at 1:44 pm
It has been known that there is a river of Oil floating in the Atlantic Ocean. All the sea life in our oceans are going to be contaminated for a very long time. Oil is like the Blood of the dead and the Angel has already poured it out, so what is the next on the list of the End Times?
Templewind Reply:
December 20th, 2011 at 5:50 pm
Apparently, the martyrs below the altar of God have already lost patience and have asked God, “How long before you avenge our deaths”? To this enquiry He said, “Until the others who will be martyred as you were, shall come to pass”.
I think that’s about where we are about now. Somewhere in the latter part of the “looseing of the seals”. Rev. chapter 6.
“And they overcame him by the Blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony, AND THAT THEY LOVED NOT THEIR LIFE, UNTO DEATH”!
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jeffydiver says:
December 20, 2011 at 12:49 pm
Well, the facts are, radiation causes extreme chromosome damage, that is something you won’t see develop for a long period of time. I don’t care if it’s X-Rays, it separate the chromosomes like a knife through butter. When the Chromosomes divide they duplicate the same defective Chromosome, and this is the beginning stages of tumor development. It doesn’t matter if you ingest it, drink it, or breath it, you’re a walking dead person waiting to happen. If you procreate, the baby is a goner, there is no cure.
The other side of the coin is the repair DNA, that tries to correct the mishap, they give up and quit their jobs. Lesson here is Nuclear is no good and needs to be scrapped from off the face of the earth. It is much wiser to start using Hydrogen and implementing the use of hydrogen for fuel uses and electric generation. The science is there, the safety procedures are available, get into it.
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Fotozine says:
December 20, 2011 at 1:00 pm
This is incredible news. Of course I warned on my blog about the real consequences of Fukushima for those on the West Coast at the time the event was unfolding. I wonder what the statistics are for those in Japan?
dncholas Reply:
December 20th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
It’s not just the west coast it nationally. Most of the radiation is traveling via the clouds.
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Rabbi Sam says:
December 20, 2011 at 1:11 pm
AJ could have been more specific regarding EPA removing radiation detection equipment throughout America’s Northwest region (which had been in place for nearly 60 years in many cases) whilst the public who could access private monitoring eqipment noticed the huge spike in radiation following Fukushima’s completel preventable meldown.
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bulldog_1990 says:
December 20, 2011 at 1:41 pm
I’ve gone full circle. At one point I was sold on some type of mollecular disassociation. Now, I wonder if anything we saw on TV on 9/11 was real. All of that could have been fabricated and streamed for live television. How the buildings came down could have been powerful ordinary demolition. If what we saw on TV was real we saw some new kind of technology.
Agree also the Congress is co-opted. Really, the priority of the moment is a bill to detain Americans without any representation? There is so much wrong I would not know even where to start. That we can live our lives and not be in full fledged revolution right now blows my mind.
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TheShadow says:
December 20, 2011 at 1:51 pm
You’re spot on, Vic. Holographics for sure and some help from PhotoShop-doctored “live” coverage. Hollywood and the stuff of David Copperfield = a HUGE illusion which fooled most. No problem for the whack-heads, though, who are way ahead technically while the goyim are 20+ years behind. But, they are eventually afforded a few crumbs such as the GPS, cell phones, and home computers operating at low-level capability, eg.
Dr. Wood expressed that something unknown was used at WTC but didn’t commit to just what that might have been.
It’s quite disturbing to “wake up” only to discover that the possibility of a wholesome, peaceful existence on Earth is being perpetually undermined by pink-eyed, brain-warped psychos…speaking of “black holes” in the Universe.
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TheShadow says:
December 20, 2011 at 1:52 pm
You’re spot on, Vic. Holographics for sure and some help from PhotoShop-doctored “live” coverage. Hollywood and the stuff of David Copperfield = a HUGE illusion which fooled most. No problem for the whack-heads, though, who are way ahead technically while the goyim are 20+ years behind. But, they are eventually afforded a few crumbs such as the GPS, cell phones, and home computers operating at low-level capability, eg.
Dr. Wood expressed that something unknown was used at WTC but didn’t commit to just what that might have been.
It’s quite disturbing to “wake up” only to discover that the possibility of a wholesome, peaceful existence on Earth is being perpetually undermined by pink-eyed, brain-warped psychos…speaking of “black holes” in the Universe.
TheShadow Reply:
December 20th, 2011 at 1:56 pm
Hey, AJ, fix this damn thing! It’s got the effin hiccups!
Glen Reply:
December 20th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
WOW the MORONS in FULL FLIGHT.
So they doctored PERSONAL VIDEO CAMERAS in REAL TIME…
Holographic planes……WTF.
Fuck some of you people are MORONS…..Just RETARDED INBRED IDIOTS.
Shadow you prove yourself to be a COMPLETE RETARD.
Congratulations The BELIEF IN CRAP award goes to you for this
Billo Reply:
December 20th, 2011 at 6:11 pm
Hello enemy shill.
a_salty_dog Reply:
December 20th, 2011 at 6:13 pm
Holographic planes are a ridiculous attempt to muddy the waters, but it can be said with some certainty that the AA planes that were meant to have struck the WTC1 and WTC2 towers were in fact, two of the first 4 Boeing 767 prototypes because of the Murray Street engine that has been identified with an incorrect turbine diffuser ring belonging to the wrong type of PW engine used on these AA airliners i.e Boeing 767-200s
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Spymyeys says:
December 20, 2011 at 3:04 pm
well,
since the good ole gubbermint gave me a nice big fat case of cancer through BENZINE poisoning,
WELCOME to the club!
Seems to me with all the reported and unreported radioactive elements, toxic chemicals, and air-born pollution that we are bombarded with everyday weather we like it or not, the NWO is having a harder time killing off large populations in a timely manner. If the goal is to sicken then kill most of the sheeple out there in the fly-over country, I must say mission accomplished. It is only a matter of time before the particular weakness in your genes is made suseptable to all the poisons and you either sicken or die, or both.
It is hard living with an illness day in & day out, pain you cannot escape, and a disability that leaves you a cripple compaired to a few short months ago when you were feeling fine!
Live everyday like it is your last day, because someday that will be true! Love someone, Laugh, and have some fun, so you can have some GOOD memories to dwell on at the end.
MERRY CHISTMASS TO ALL OF YOU AT PP AND ALL WHO POST HERE.
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Call me Nobody says:
December 20, 2011 at 3:52 pm
I know this is off the subject, but since we have…depleted uranium can be mixed with high explosives, and it can burn for hours after the explosion at thousands of degrees. Notice the molten metal like lava pouring out of the WTC where the planes hit. Or the Pentagon fire that burned white-hot for hours after it was hit? Go to youtube and check out the videos yourself. Also, be sure to watch for the Pentagon fire and rescue workers who are undergoing decontam proceedures. Did you know the steel that was sent to China from the WTC was turned away by China. Why? Because it contained high levels of radio activity. These are all facts by the way. As for Japan, its about god-damn time they got that shit under control and as for me it be a long time before I eat anything that says MADE IN JAPAN.
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Gay_Ray says:
December 20, 2011 at 5:26 pm
I doubt that hologram airplanes were used in 9/11 but as nobody seems to have youtubed their own personal video footage it’s reasonable to assume that all the cameras in the area were ‘collected’ for evidence leaving official sources as the only place to see the planes.
Look up Bugs Bunny in Disneyland and adults remembering childhood air balloon flights after being shown a couple of photoshops of themselves to get the picture.
Imagine how many witnesses to big smoke and loud noises will insert their own airplanes into their brains when exposed to so many re-runs of the event (and evil glances from their friends should they express the slightest doubt).
Ignoring that for a moment, WTC7 may in fact be misdirection; by bringing down a third building and making people assume there was ‘meant to be a third plane impact’ distracts (possibly) from the real reason two planes were required…
It’s not easy explaining why so much footage of a terror plane was ready for only one crash! The second plane was DESIGNED to arrive in time for loads of cameras and witnesses; it had to go out LIVE AND DIRECT for the people to react instintively and buy into the war of terror.
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particle1 says:
December 20, 2011 at 5:32 pm
This is the reason all novelist leave out the spent rod melt downs from doomsday novels, there would be no planetary survivors to make a story about.
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a_salty_dog says:
December 20, 2011 at 7:28 pm
Americans should be calling for the immediate closure of all their BWRs, just as the Government has decided in Germany. These Nuclear Reactors were never safe (leading to a full melt down that could escape the containment) and the engineers and scientists who designed them know that were hurriedly built to a corporate unit cost deemed acceptable rather than on safety grounds, much like the Russian RBMK design.
This us why the much safer UK AGRs were never commercially successful.
The 1992 BBC documentary ‘Pandora’s Box’ exposed the reality of this situation in the UK and most Americans are still today unaware of the dangers.
w w w. youtube. com/watch?v=uS01DaQUu3g

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